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:Hmmm, so that's a lot of ships that are going to need recategorizing. I think this is definitely going to be a work here and there kind of project as ships are slowly put into their proper categories. In the mean time, I think I'll leave the other two silhouette pages as I think they're still much more interesting to browse than just lists of names (kind of how the ILI is more interesting now than it was before). The work to keep those two pages updated will still be a lot less than re-categorizing all the remaining ships. [[User:Rich|'''♫ Rich''']] ▪ [[118Wiki:Administrators|<small>118Wiki Administrator</small>]] ▪ [[User talk:Rich|<small>Send Message</small>]] 14:46, 15 October 2015 (CDT)
:Hmmm, so that's a lot of ships that are going to need recategorizing. I think this is definitely going to be a work here and there kind of project as ships are slowly put into their proper categories. In the mean time, I think I'll leave the other two silhouette pages as I think they're still much more interesting to browse than just lists of names (kind of how the ILI is more interesting now than it was before). The work to keep those two pages updated will still be a lot less than re-categorizing all the remaining ships. [[User:Rich|'''♫ Rich''']] ▪ [[118Wiki:Administrators|<small>118Wiki Administrator</small>]] ▪ [[User talk:Rich|<small>Send Message</small>]] 14:46, 15 October 2015 (CDT)
::There's no work added because I already completed those pages. :) It's going to take a while to fill up the currently mostly-empty [[:Category:Starfleet vessels by OOC status]] and [[:Category:Starfleet vessels by IC status]], so I don't see any reason to remove the completed silhouette pages and change the portal links until they're done. Even then, I don't think it's really going to add that much more work to maintain them, but we can see how it goes in the meantime until the recategorization is complete. The ILI is not completely based on categories either. Species are divided into various quadrants and not simply put into species by quadrant categories. It's just two different ways of presenting the same information, and though yes it's not automated like categories, the benefit of course is the visual interest for the browser, and I suspect like the revamped ILI, a graphical listing of ships will be of more interest to folks and actually ''encourage'' others to maintain the listing more than just straight text-only listing of names. We've seen this with the ILI, where seeing all those "no graphic available" placeholders have spurred people to touch up on species that haven't been looked at in years. [[User:Rich|'''♫ Rich''']] ▪ [[118Wiki:Administrators|<small>118Wiki Administrator</small>]] ▪ [[User talk:Rich|<small>Send Message</small>]] 15:04, 15 October 2015 (CDT)
::There's no work added because I already completed those pages. :) It's going to take a while to fill up the currently mostly-empty [[:Category:Starfleet vessels by OOC status]] and [[:Category:Starfleet vessels by IC status]], so I don't see any reason to remove the completed silhouette pages and change the portal links until they're done. Even then, I don't think it's really going to add that much more work to maintain them, but we can see how it goes in the meantime until the recategorization is complete. The ILI is not completely based on categories either. Species are divided into various quadrants and not simply put into species by quadrant categories. It's just two different ways of presenting the same information, and though yes it's not automated like categories, the benefit of course is the visual interest for the browser, and I suspect like the revamped ILI, a graphical listing of ships will be of more interest to folks and actually ''encourage'' others to maintain the listing more than just straight text-only listing of names. We've seen this with the ILI, where seeing all those "no graphic available" placeholders have spurred people to touch up on species that haven't been looked at in years. [[User:Rich|'''♫ Rich''']] ▪ [[118Wiki:Administrators|<small>118Wiki Administrator</small>]] ▪ [[User talk:Rich|<small>Send Message</small>]] 15:04, 15 October 2015 (CDT)
== PC bases ==
I'm fine either way. All the forms people fill out and the CON just use ships/vessels as the generic, so I don't really care so much about the semantics, but if you think it's worthwhile to create separate active, inactive, retired, and NPC base categories, it's not a big deal as there aren't that many of them. [[User:Rich|'''♫ Rich''']] ▪ [[118Wiki:Administrators|<small>118Wiki Administrator</small>]] ▪ [[User talk:Rich|<small>Send Message</small>]] 15:07, 15 October 2015 (CDT)

Revision as of 20:07, 15 October 2015

This page has been truncated to include only discussions from 2012 onward. Old discussions are found here. --Wolf /talk page 01:55, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Possible improvement.

I noticed that you require a certain amount of contributions before you can become a Admin, however the amount required is difficult to count using the 'My contributions' screen. As a possible solution to this you might want to check out [1] .

JamesTPau 23:45, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

What kind of Category?

I wasn't sure what kind of category to use for this page (outside of the ship category), so I'm holding off: http://wiki.starbase118.net/wiki/index.php?title=Discovery_Deck_8_Section_37_Compartment_7 DCody 03:06, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Revamped front page

I propose we more prominently display the links to the ships on the main page. Something like this. Thoughts? Also, is there a way to modify the upload page so that a warning can be added that advises users that a new version of a file takes time to appear on the live server? We could reduce redundant uploads that way. –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman/MCpt. Kadosh 05:58, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, don't worry about the ship icons. Already working on it. :D I'll keep you updated. –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman/MCpt. Kadosh 06:20, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Updated. New Luna class image and lighter purple background for the entire box. –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman/MCpt. Kadosh 08:03, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Well, the space really just depends on the user's screen resolution. How about centering the SB118 image? –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman/MCpt. Kadosh 23:59, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Another take: centered below the text.Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman/MCpt. Kadosh 06:43, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
First sentence as headline.Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman/MCpt. Kadosh 05:19, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Bump. ;) –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman/MCpt. Kadosh 17:04, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

New layout

Version 2.Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman/MCpt. Kadosh 07:15, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry. Basically, for each new row that needs to be added, if there are at least 3 new ships, good. If 2 new ships, then add the Centris as the third. If 1 new ship, add the Centris and a generic ship icon with a link to the Ship Histories page. –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman/MCpt. Kadosh 20:21, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Multiple Image template

Have we used one of these? For example, the Example with Background Color over at the big daddy [2] - I'm playing around with an idea to group three (capacity up to seven) images together on an existing page (mine) and not sure if I would have to create this template here or not. DCody (talk) 01:11, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Multiple User Accounts

Howdy Fleet Admiral, I have been going through older wiki pages and found that one of the members of the Tiger-A crew has two accounts for the wiki. He stated that he no longer wishes to use this profile but wants this profile to remain active. How should I proceed? Lance (talk) 17:48, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Testing, 2014/07/03

Testing. --Wolf /talk page 11:39, 3 July 2014 (CDT)

Proposed update to main page

What do you think of updating the main page to match the style of the various subpages with the pseudo-LCARS look:

User:Rich/Sandbox

Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman, Chief of Wiki Operations 06:46, 16 August 2014 (CDT)

No worries. Just playing with some ideas. ♫ Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman, Chief of Wiki Operations 21:33, 16 August 2014 (CDT)

TOC class changes and main page proposal 2

With the new update to 1.23, it looks like the formatting for the TOC class has been changed. Specifically, there's now no more padding around text. This doesn't affect the actual table of contents in pages, but a lot of people have been inappropriately using id="TOC" in their templates and even class=TOC is not as good as class=infobox, which is defined and easily editable in MediaWiki:Common.css

New TOC class in a template Using infobox class instead
Crew of the USS Gemini

LiamFrost1.jpg

DS9style-cpt red.png
DS9style-blank red.png
Captain

  • Gender: Male
  • Position: Commanding Officer
  • Ship: USS Gemini
  • Rank: Commander
  • Race: Human
Crew of the USS Gemini

LiamFrost1.jpg

DS9style-cpt red.png
DS9style-blank red.png
Captain

  • Gender: Male
  • Position: Commanding Officer
  • Ship: USS Gemini
  • Rank: Commander
  • Race: Human

You can see the main page has also changed as well. I removed the extra bar on my proposal for the main page. I think it actually looks cleaner now than the current Main Page. Let me know what you think: User:Rich/Sandbox

I think the "StarBase 118 Fleet" bar should be above the ships, not below it, since the standard on the rest of the page is to have the description of the box on the top, not the bottom. But once we get below that section, I'm just not a fan. I think it looks too cluttered and all the "broken lines" are an eyesore to me. If we can simplify this greatly, it might be worth it, but per before, I'm not sure this is an improvement on what we have... Sorry, I don't mean to poo-poo your hard work here, but I don't want us to move into this formatting just for the sake of looking like LCARS, or updating just because it's been the same design for a long time. Subtle changes like the colored separators near the top of your new design are nice, though. --Wolf /talk page 01:00, 8 September 2014 (CDT)

Anyway, for the TOC changes, the easiest thing would be to figure out how to change the TOC back to the old styling. The proper thing would be to have everyone begin changing their table classes from TOC to something else such as "infobox". ♫ Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman, Chief of Wiki Operations 18:26, 31 August 2014 (CDT)

It's not major enough that I think we should change the CSS-- it will just end up causing problems for future upgrades as we go through every cycle of remembering what the problem was, figuring out how to fix it, etc. Let's just recommend that everyone fix the ones that are poorly formatted :) --Wolf /talk page 01:00, 8 September 2014 (CDT)

ILI permitted

Looks good. I just edited the footer now to conform with the standard footer look (with the page name bar as the very bottom). ♫ Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman, Chief of Wiki Operations 17:16, 13 September 2014 (CDT)

Dubois vs Du Bos

Hi there! I changed it to Du Bos because apparently the quote is actually from another man whose last name is Du Bos: wp:Charles Du Bos, quotes.net, books.google.comRich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman, Chief of Wiki Operations 17:35, 27 October 2014 (CDT)

UFP History Menu

History menu added at the bottom of each page. ♫ Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman, Chief of Wiki Operations 18:15, 7 December 2014 (CST)

Academy Courses

I was just on the forums, saw a thread named "Help on my Academy Transcript" in which someone was commenting, in essence, that there aren't enough courses to really flesh out a character. I remembered that I have an Academy box-set from the Last Unicorn Games pen-and-paper RPG that has a huge listing of courses, and professors, etc. I know they're not cannon, but I wonder if we'd able to use those courses here to give people more choices? What do you think? Rich is worried about copyright, but if we don't use the write-ups for the courses, and make our own, then the only thing we'd be using is the course code (random letters and numbers) and course names. LUG doesn't even exist anymore (they were bought out by Wizards of the Coast). -Varaan (talk) 13:06, 18 April 2015 (CDT)

Frontpage 3.0

Yay or nay? User:Rich/Sandbox ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 17:48, 12 June 2015 (CDT)

Done. ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 01:25, 13 June 2015 (CDT)
What do you think of this Trek delta with SB118 as a new main page image? ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 00:35, 14 June 2015 (CDT)
Slightly bigger ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 18:10, 16 June 2015 (CDT)
New version: New starbase image. ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 16:52, 14 July 2015 (CDT)
Something like this? ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 17:16, 14 July 2015 (CDT)

Hehe, I'll try to think of some things. I'll also work on making a larger version (maybe we'd be able to use it in promo stuff etc.)

In the mean time, here's the file link: File:SB118delta.png. ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 17:45, 14 July 2015 (CDT)

Starfleet Vessel Register

Used CSS to set the opacity of the silhouettes to 20% if the ship was lost or decommissioned. Also have it set so that lost and decommissioned ship names are italicized while active PC ships names are bolded. I see what you mean re: upkeep of three pages, but I do like the visual representation of the fleet. Could simply do an audit every two months or so to make sure it's up to date, asking wiki ops for volunteers, maybe one person checking the NPC ships A-J or the inactives, etc. Could also eliminate one of the pages so it's just ships by class and ships by OOC status. ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 12:11, 15 October 2015 (CDT)

Hmmm, so that's a lot of ships that are going to need recategorizing. I think this is definitely going to be a work here and there kind of project as ships are slowly put into their proper categories. In the mean time, I think I'll leave the other two silhouette pages as I think they're still much more interesting to browse than just lists of names (kind of how the ILI is more interesting now than it was before). The work to keep those two pages updated will still be a lot less than re-categorizing all the remaining ships. ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 14:46, 15 October 2015 (CDT)
There's no work added because I already completed those pages. :) It's going to take a while to fill up the currently mostly-empty Category:Starfleet vessels by OOC status and Category:Starfleet vessels by IC status, so I don't see any reason to remove the completed silhouette pages and change the portal links until they're done. Even then, I don't think it's really going to add that much more work to maintain them, but we can see how it goes in the meantime until the recategorization is complete. The ILI is not completely based on categories either. Species are divided into various quadrants and not simply put into species by quadrant categories. It's just two different ways of presenting the same information, and though yes it's not automated like categories, the benefit of course is the visual interest for the browser, and I suspect like the revamped ILI, a graphical listing of ships will be of more interest to folks and actually encourage others to maintain the listing more than just straight text-only listing of names. We've seen this with the ILI, where seeing all those "no graphic available" placeholders have spurred people to touch up on species that haven't been looked at in years. ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 15:04, 15 October 2015 (CDT)

PC bases

I'm fine either way. All the forms people fill out and the CON just use ships/vessels as the generic, so I don't really care so much about the semantics, but if you think it's worthwhile to create separate active, inactive, retired, and NPC base categories, it's not a big deal as there aren't that many of them. ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 15:07, 15 October 2015 (CDT)