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!style="background:#343434;color:white" colspan=3|Tholian Ranks
!style="background:#343434;color:white" colspan=3|Tholian Ranks
|-
|-
!style="background:lightgray;"|Insignia
!style="background:lightgray;"|Rank
!style="background:lightgray;"|Rank
!style="background:lightgray;"|Starfleet Equivalent
!style="background:lightgray;"|Starfleet Equivalent
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|width=120 style="background:black;"|{{TholianPips|Colonel General}}
!Admiral
!Admiral
|A flag officer, equivalent to '''admiral'''
|A flag officer, equivalent to '''admiral'''
|-
|-
|style="background:black;"|{{TholianPips|Major General}}
!Commodore
!Commodore
|A flag officer, equivalent to '''commodore'''
|A flag officer, equivalent to '''commodore'''
|-
|-
|style="background:black;"|{{TholianPips|Colonel}}
!Captain
!Captain
|Equivalent to '''captain'''
|Equivalent to '''captain'''
|-
|-
|style="background:black;"|{{TholianPips|Major}}
!Commander
!Commander
|Equivalent to '''commander'''
|Equivalent to '''commander'''
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|-
|style="background:black;"|{{TholianPips|Lt. Commander}}
!Lieutenant
!Lieutenant
|Equivalent to '''lieutenant'''
|Equivalent to '''lieutenant'''
|-
|-
|style="background:black;"|{{TholianPips|Second Lieutenant}}
!Ensign
!Ensign
|Equivalent to '''ensign'''
|Equivalent to '''ensign'''
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:I'm happy to update it. Wanted your thoughts though on whether we should create any unique Tholian names for these ranks, at least for the two flag ranks, but I just checked in Memory Beta and there've been at least in the novels mentions of Tholian Admirals and Grand Admirals, so I think we'll go with those instead of commodore. I'm going to get rid of the captain rank since TOS and the TOS novels seem to always use Commander as the rank for a starship CO. [[User:Rich|'''♫ Rich''']] ▪ [[118Wiki:Administrators|<small>118Wiki Administrator</small>]] ▪ [[User talk:Rich|<small>Send Message</small>]] 23:43, 7 August 2015 (CDT)
:I'm happy to update it. Wanted your thoughts though on whether we should create any unique Tholian names for these ranks, at least for the two flag ranks, but I just checked in Memory Beta and there've been at least in the novels mentions of Tholian Admirals and Grand Admirals, so I think we'll go with those instead of commodore. I'm going to get rid of the captain rank since TOS and the TOS novels seem to always use Commander as the rank for a starship CO. [[User:Rich|'''♫ Rich''']] ▪ [[118Wiki:Administrators|<small>118Wiki Administrator</small>]] ▪ [[User talk:Rich|<small>Send Message</small>]] 23:43, 7 August 2015 (CDT)
::This is what I've put up. What do you think? It integrates the caste information that we know of Tholian society too, at least on the ILI which is from Memory Beta:
===Ranks of the Tholian Assembly===
Though the majority of Tholians do not wear a rank as their leadership position was based on their attitude and color pattern, the Tholian Assembly did have a set of ranks so when they were among other races their position could be better easily recognized.
{|class=wikitable
!style="background:#343434;color:white" colspan=3|Tholian Ranks
|-
!style="background:lightgray;"|Insignia
!style="background:lightgray;"|Rank
!style="background:lightgray;"|Starfleet Equivalent
|-
|width=120 style="background:black;"|{{TholianPips|Grand Admiral}}
!Grand Admiral
|A senior flag officer, equivalent to '''fleet admiral'''
|-
|style="background:black;"|{{TholianPips|Admiral}}
!Admiral
|A flag officer, equivalent to '''admiral'''
|-
|style="background:black;"|{{TholianPips|Commander}}
!Commander
|A senior officer, equivalent to '''captain''' or '''commander'''
|-
|style="background:black;"|{{TholianPips|Lieutenant}}
!Lieutenant
|A mid-level officer, equivalent to '''lieutenant commander''' or '''lieutenant'''
|-
|style="background:black;"|{{TholianPips|Ensign}}
!Ensign
|A junior officer, equivalent to '''lieutenant junior grade''' or '''ensign'''
|-
!colspan=3 style="background:#343434;"|
|-
|style="background:black;"|{{TholianPips|Warrior}}
!Warrior
|The lowest rank, composed of the warrior caste and equivalent to '''crewman'''.
|-
|colspan=3|Tholian society is strictly segregated based on caste, and the Tholian military is no different. Members of the warrior caste make up the bulk of the military, but only members of the leadership caste serve as officers. In addition, specialists from other castes such as healers, scientists, and engineers serve aboard the military but only at the lowest officer ranks.
|}
===Background Note===
''The pips above are from [http://kuro-rpg.net kuro-rpg.net], and have been renamed to conform with only those ranks seen onscreen or listed in the novels (Memory Beta). The junior ranks of ensign and lieutenant are also used in Star Trek Online and are included here. That game also includes the rank of captain, but as TOS and the various TOS novels have consistently used the rank of commander for starship commanding officers, that is the captain equivalent used here.'''
[[User:Rich|'''♫ Rich''']] ▪ [[118Wiki:Administrators|<small>118Wiki Administrator</small>]] ▪ [[User talk:Rich|<small>Send Message</small>]] 00:09, 8 August 2015 (CDT)

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