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: We also need to add Yohan Bach. He was the first CO of the Freedom at the same time that Elinor was on her first command. He was the first person to make CO after her. I believe that Pelletier, then, was Elinor's FO, and took over the Freedom from Bach after he left. Sounds like a logical progression. --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 21:50, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
: We also need to add Yohan Bach. He was the first CO of the Freedom at the same time that Elinor was on her first command. He was the first person to make CO after her. I believe that Pelletier, then, was Elinor's FO, and took over the Freedom from Bach after he left. Sounds like a logical progression. --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 21:50, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
:: Uh, two different animals, Wolf. :p Jeff commanded the Freedom-A. The original Freedom was a chat ship, although I can't seem to pinpoint when/where it stopped. It was prior to moving us over to email (I have no listing for the Freedom involved when we ran Yolandaa). [[User:DCody|DCody]] 09:40, 8 January 2009 (EST)


:: BTW, you can find this information [http://www.starbase118.net/members/events/awards/ceremonies/1998.php here]. --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 21:51, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
:: BTW, you can find this information [http://www.starbase118.net/members/events/awards/ceremonies/1998.php here]. --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 21:51, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
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I may have jumped to a conclusion, but a Captain would usually be a CO? - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-PhoenixC.jpg|30px|USS Tiger]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 10:17, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
I may have jumped to a conclusion, but a Captain would usually be a CO? - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-PhoenixC.jpg|30px|USS Tiger]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 10:17, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
:Also, Reporter #31; "With the launching of the experimental Magellan class USS Trinidad, under the command of Captain Curtis Arnavon, the crew simming on the actual starbase has changed". So that'd suggest you're right and that I'm doing this research too late at night. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-PhoenixC.jpg|30px|USS Tiger]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 11:44, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
:Also, Reporter #31; "With the launching of the experimental Magellan class USS Trinidad, under the command of Captain Curtis Arnavon, the crew simming on the actual starbase has changed". So that'd suggest you're right and that I'm doing this research too late at night. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-PhoenixC.jpg|30px|USS Tiger]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 11:44, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
I located this, not sure can it be of any help [[User:Vid-Lotilija|Vid-Lotilija]] 14:00, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Captain Curtis Arvanon: Curtis began his career in July 1996 on the USS Centris, where he rose from Ensign and reached the rank of Commander in May 1997 under Admiral Elinor of Kanist.Curtis then replaced Fleet Admiral Wolf as commander of Starbase 118 operations and reached the rank of Captain.He served at this post for some time before opting to return to ship-life and transferring to the USS Trinidad as Captain.Curtis commanded this vessel until he resigned UFOP after falling victim to increased 'real life' time demands.Curtis was a long serving and reliable command officer.


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I'm not sure it'd really be fair to list me as the original CO for everyone. For example, Brian Kelly never actually served under me -- he was brought in as a CO, on the recommendation of Elinor, to take over while she was away for a summer. If I remember correctly, he then moved on to his own ship. Pelletier would likely chafe at the idea of his legacy showing he descended from my command :)  Elinor and I really worked together, more than she came from my command, although you could say that she was on my ship IC. --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 21:58, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
I'm not sure it'd really be fair to list me as the original CO for everyone. For example, Brian Kelly never actually served under me -- he was brought in as a CO, on the recommendation of Elinor, to take over while she was away for a summer. If I remember correctly, he then moved on to his own ship. Pelletier would likely chafe at the idea of his legacy showing he descended from my command :)  Elinor and I really worked together, more than she came from my command, although you could say that she was on my ship IC. --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 21:58, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
:Actually, Elinor brought him as an XO originally. That I can attest to. :) One of the hardest things to understand about the tree is for the first two years, players (and COs) had a habit of loitering with each ship's chats. It wasn't uncommon to have both Wolf, Elinor and... bless it, can't remember the 3rd CO. In my notes, we had 3 running chat sim ships running from 94 into January '95. Jeff never served under Wolf- LOL. He's Elinor's, from Ensign through LtCmdr. [[User:DCody|DCody]] 00:28, 8 January 2009 (EST)
::So there you go -- I didn't even remember he was an XO before he was a CO. Either way, it's a weird and sketchy tree that descends from me. --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 20:57, 8 January 2009 (EST)
== Bach & Relic ==
I've got limited notes on Admiral Bach and Doug Relic. My memory is not that great anymore. You, J? :P [[User:DCody|DCody]] 00:35, 8 January 2009 (EST)
:Anything you can add. The further back you go, the patchier the records are. [[Talk:UFOP Family Tree/Timeline |Relic looks familiar]], not sure I've come across Bach. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt Cmdr. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-PhoenixC.jpg|30px|USS Tiger]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 05:22, 8 January 2009 (EST)
::Bach was, I think, third Captain after me and Elinor. Captain of the Chicago. Sven Tray was right in and around that -- Sven may have been third or fourth. --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 20:52, 8 January 2009 (EST)
::: Well, I've got Phoenix, Centris, and Alliance in that order. Makes Sven fourth. I did not know Tyve inherited the Chicago from Bach, though. ;) We need to do something about Chicago. What I put up was out of the Reporters. [[User:DCody|DCody]] 20:56, 8 January 2009 (EST)
== Update required? ==
Was looking at the tree (impressive btw) and saw that some stuff did change, like Gemini is not around (Or I am blind) and with the new arrival of Za. Thought this might need an update.
--[[User:Pjacobs88|Pjacobs88]] ([[User talk:Pjacobs88|talk]]) 02:26, 14 August 2016 (CDT)
::The [[History Team]] is aware of the situation, and we are discussing options involving other update methods. [[User:Chythar Daniel Skyfire|Dr. Skyfire]] ([[User talk:Chythar Daniel Skyfire|talk]]) 13:53, 14 August 2016 (CDT)
== Current methods ==
Hello, all. So, the current version of the UFOP Family Tree is drawn using draw.io, and the document itself is shared with the history team. [[User:Zephyr|Zephyr • History Team]] ([[User talk:Zephyr|talk]]) 21:39, 24 April 2020 (UTC)


::Actually, Elinor brought him as an XO originally. That I can attest to. :) One of the hardest things to understand about the tree is for the first two years, players (and COs) had a habit of loitering with each ship's chats. It wasn't uncommon to have both Wolf, Elinor and... bless it, can't remember the 3rd CO. In my notes, we had 3 running chat sim ships running from 94 into January '95. Jeff never served under Wolf- LOL. He's Elinor's, from Ensign through LtCmdr. [[User:DCody|DCody]] 00:28, 8 January 2009 (EST)
: Google Drive > "! Teams" > "Team: Community History" – "Copy of captain geneology" --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 21:44, 24 April 2020 (UTC)