This would be interesting to see... how will it work though?
Other methods...
Might be better to use a list, or perhaps use a Geneology software, like Geni :) --Wolf /talk page 19:50, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
Possible tree...
Here's one using the list format. It's a little more complete, but there's tons of history in the Reports that you could uncover and make a more complete picture. --Wolf /talk page 20:00, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
- FltAdml. Wolf
- Maela Jolon
- Colin McHendry
- Ka'el Laang
- Maela Jolon
- Elinor of Kanist/Rauch of Kanist
- Reginald Lecrisp
- Jeff Pelletier
- San Aquiss
- Torrack Demma
- San Aquiss
- Skyfire
- Shaun Marlin
- Valerious McGregor
- Jay Ross
- Valerious McGregor
- Alder
- Mike James
- Adler Wong-Aquiss
- Mike James
- Shaun Marlin
- Brian Kelly
- Jasen Rendary
- Vedoc
- Hollis Calley
- Xan Hebron
- Rocar Drawoh
- Daydan Taboo
- Jessa Anassasi
- Kare'en m'Hapron m'Adrina
- Idril Mar
- Sidney Riley
- Nekkar
- Tyr Waltas
- Rocar Drawoh
- Christopher Hutton
- T'Pen
- Jordan Hurne
- Mal Avatar
- Megan Parker
- Robin Phoenix
- Rhys Bejain
- Xan Hebron
- Hollis Calley
- Vedoc
- Rachel Daninburg
- Varaan
- Theodore Draigon
- Jasen Rendary
- ? Sven Tray
- Maiken Bajim
- ? Douglas Relic
- ? Ruach
- ? Y'Shirad
- ? Alucard
- Jesa Callen
- ? Sven Tray
On top of the inverted version of Rocar's, I've just been looking at a column version showing when each ship's been about... 118Wiki:Sand Box#Year chart. That puts it in date perspective, and if things don't get too complicated, it could be done in such a way to show where ships predominantely split from or merged to (see Triumhpant and Indy for a merge). Given a CO tends to command a ship that splits from the ship of the CO that taught them... (though I've put Tiger as suceeding Ursa, that could be worked to show a merge, albeit a tad clumsily as crew transferring to Tiger from Ursa never joined Indy) - Lt. Salak
Talk 20:08, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
That looks great Salak.
I think this page could do with a little preambule. Then the table I've started followed by your table... both lots of info/ ways of presenting it would be good together.
Cheers for the extra info Admiral.. I was kinda going from memory (hence why its a bit one sided towards the Hollis Branch of the family tree right now). Will work it in.
In the long run years for these captains would be handy if anyone can be bothered finding them out! ..I'm putting question marks where im not sure for now.
"Fleet Captain Rocar Drawoh | Talk"
- I added a couple for McGregor... She commanded Wallace roughly June -> Sept 2000, with Jay Ross (her previous XO) taking over from her until decommissioning... which I'd thought was about Nov 2001 but now seems to be sometime in 2002; sims are on the Victory mailing list. - Lt. Salak
Talk 21:23, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
Alder == Adler; you probably shouldn't have her in there twice. Tekra 18:21, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
Mcgregor
Did McGregor come from Shaun Marlin or from Brian Kelly?
"Fleet Captain Rocar Drawoh | Talk"
- Marlin on Indria, just double checked it. Was getting the Indria and the Ranger mixed up; Ranger was Kelly's... then Terra's, then Skye's, though was Skye simmed by Wolf? - Lt. Salak Talk 21:46, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
Ok so I have him descending from Marlin and Marlin descending from Kelly... but I suspect that might be wrong. Should Marlin be on the same level as Kelly (descending from Wolf?)
Also where does Capt Vedoc fit in... is he between Hollish and Raferty?
"Fleet Captain Rocar Drawoh | Talk"
- Certainly branches off Rendary, dunno if it's same level as Hollis or in between the two; just seen him on the "Kodiak" looking up Ursa Major & Kodiak-B dates. My turn to forget to sign for a change: - Lt. Salak Talk 22:18, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
- Vedoc's between the two; Rendary commanded the original Kodiak, Cpt Vedoc had the Kodiak-A then Cmdr Hollis took that over from him before replacing it with the Kodiak-B just after Anassasi launched on the first Indy if I've pieced the profile info together right, and read the Kodiak mission logs page correctly :) - Lt. Salak Talk 22:21, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
- Problem piecing the timeline together... there are some mentions of Anassasi as CO of the Conny, but the Indy list only shows her on the two Indys, along with Phoenix and I think possibly one other ship (not Conny). I know she'd been on Kodiak before command but I don't know bout this gap... may have to ask her. - Lt. Salak Talk 12:22, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
- Problem piecing the timeline together... there are some mentions of Anassasi as CO of the Conny, but the Indy list only shows her on the two Indys, along with Phoenix and I think possibly one other ship (not Conny). I know she'd been on Kodiak before command but I don't know bout this gap... may have to ask her. - Lt. Salak
- Vedoc's between the two; Rendary commanded the original Kodiak, Cpt Vedoc had the Kodiak-A then Cmdr Hollis took that over from him before replacing it with the Kodiak-B just after Anassasi launched on the first Indy if I've pieced the profile info together right, and read the Kodiak mission logs page correctly :) - Lt. Salak
Floating CO's and Ships
Can anyone work out how to fit the following Captain's into the tree:
? Sven Tray ? Jeff Pelletier ? Adler Wong-Aquiss ? Skyfire ? San Aquiss ? Jesa Callen
I'm not sure of their ships or decendance?
"Fleet Captain Rocar Drawoh | Talk"
- Based on wiki pages for respective ships;
- Skyfire > "Alder" > Mike James - USS Obertha (Skyfire only) then USS Ronin (1st service, all three in turn)
- Pelletier (Freedom-A) > San' Aquiss (Freedom-A, Nemesis-A, Ops) > Demma (Nemesis-A, Freedom-A (renamed Defiance, attached to DS72), Deep Space 72) > Wong-Aquiss (Nemesis-B (renamed from Defiance), NX Nemesis (Nemesis-C, aka Achilles))
- Flt Cpt Sven Tray (Isannah)
- Jolon (Isannah) > McHendry (temp; isannah) > Laang (Isannah, Magellan).
- Alucard (Isannah) > Callen (Isannah)
Names still missing
Missing a couple names: O'Malley (Hammond, Jolon trained), Demma(Multiple), Randor(StarWind, Elinor trained), Jacobs (Ithaca?), VonGrippen (untrained), Keldor (Galileo) ... did Mike James ever make command? Edward Kingson (that's me, though, and I'd rather be on the list as my Executive Council character) Tekra 13:46, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
- Demma's listed under Elinor above. Mike James captained the Ronin, and thus is listed above under Alder & Skyfire, though we're not currently sure where Skyfire fits in (was he USS StarWind? Seem to recall reading bout them joining from outside or something? My memory may be mixing stuff up though). - Lt. Salak Talk 13:51, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
Mistakes
Can anyone spot any mistakes in the article so far?