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==DS17 nav template==
*[[User talk:Canreb Archives Part 1]]
Wallace is linked as it was posted to the station, it's crew were on dual assignment as we were posted to both Wallace & DS17 and regularly had missions (not just shore leave) on the station. If Triumphant is the same then very well but if not then either leave it in the Ithassa Region bit and off the DS17 menu OR add Indy-A and maybe Ursa Major too... - [[User:Salak|<font color="336600">Jay</font>]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 04:11, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
*[[User talk:Canreb Archives Part 2]]
==Important Links==
:Try a colour wheel, [http://www.ficml.org/jemimap/style/color/wheel.html like this one] maybe? :)  


* As both Admiral Anassasi and Hollis have said, Deep Space 17 serves the Ithassa Fleet (and vice versa). I think the best course is to just change the wording of the text from craft assigned to starship support, as this better reflects the joint and collaborative voices of several crews instead of just one, as it should be. ;-) [[User:DCody|DCody]] 19:48, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
==Category Reminder==
Don't forget to add your categories. *wink, nod* You might want to either delete some of this or break it into smaller sections if you'd prefer to archive some of this. ;) [[User:DCody|DCody]] 23:37, 12 December 2008 (EST)


:* That's my fault, I wrote the Wallace and DS17 pages as one section at first about two years ago. - [[User:Salak|<font color="336600">Jay</font>]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 04:28, 2 July 2007 (CDT)
:I managed to get a complete list of all the categories... and will add them later... still working on the 2 pages... when I finish them I will go through the list and find the ones that I think I should use... and boy is it a BIG list to go through... [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 00:14, 13 December 2008 (EST)


* Thank you for the responses. I will try and get those fixed. I am still working on learning how to use Wikki properly. I have also asked various people about how to do things when I was having problems trying to do any changes or additions. Still working on getting them all fixed. If I missed something just tell me and I will get to it. Again thank you for the input. Canreb July 1, CANADA DAY, 2007
:: lol [[User:DCody|DCody]] 00:28, 13 December 2008 (EST)


:*Well the admins are here to help, if you want help with anything then feel free to ask us ;) - [[User:Salak|<font color="336600">Jay</font>]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 04:28, 2 July 2007 (CDT)
== The Move Button ==


== Categories ==
If you give a page a wrong title, there's a tab at the top of the page, to the right of Edit, that says "Move". Try that, it allows you to retitle a page and thus means less deleting is needed. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt Cmdr. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-PhoenixC.jpg|30px|USS Tiger]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 18:02, 6 January 2009 (EST)


Please make sure you're adding [[118Wiki:Using Categories|categories]] to ''every'' page you create. Thanks! --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 10:49, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
thanks... that will be a big help... sorry for any added work... I was trying to create episodes like the other ships have... [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 10:58, 8 January 2009 (EST)
* I think I have been able to go back and add Categories to every thing I have added. In those cases where I have added the wrong ones I have tried to go back and change them to the proper ones. Canreb 7 August 2007


== Re: Template:Asterospolis ==
:Quite alright :) - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt Cmdr. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-PhoenixC.jpg|30px|USS Tiger]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 13:11, 8 January 2009 (EST)


Normally, the images used in nav templates are 175px x 90px. Just keeps a nice uniformity to all of them, whenever possible. Just an FYI... --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 00:17, 2 July 2007 (CDT)
== Devitt ==


* Thanks for letting me know. I will keep that in mind for the future. If I can find an asteroid picture the right size I will replace it. Canreb 4 July 2007,
Does Devitt belong on the Eagle's Current Crew Roster? Seems like she's an NPC when everyone else on it is a PC? *puzzled* - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt Cmdr. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-PhoenixC.jpg|30px|USS Tiger]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 18:09, 24 March 2009 (EDT)


==Free Trade Union==
As per a conversation with first Captain Taboo of the USS Eagle and then Captain T'Pen of the USS Challenger, my primary character has requested a transfer to the USS Challenger, however I wanted to continue to be of some use on the USS Eagle so after much discussion with Captain Taboo we considered all the NPC's that I had been simming for and he suggested that I promote Devitt to be my new secondary... this will become official once the transfer has taken place. At that time I will make the final adjustments to transform her into my new PC on the Eagle... however I have been doing a lot of sims with her already... way more than with most of the other NPC's I use on a regular basis...[[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 09:26, 25 March 2009 (EDT)


I am removing the Grendailli link again... unless you have information that is an update of what is already posted, this race is not a member of the FTU. Thanks. [[User:DCody|DCody]] 14:36, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
:Ah right. That makes sense :) - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt Cmdr. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-PhoenixC.jpg|30px|USS Tiger]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 12:10, 25 March 2009 (EDT)


== Phaelasour & Ilbera species ==


Were these species shown, mentioned, or referred to on a Star Trek episode or movie? If not, then they should ''not'' be listed in the "restricted" category. Instead, until they are reviewed and approved, they need to be listed in the "[[:Category:Non-Reviewed Species|Non-Reviewed Species]]" and the [[:Category:Non-Canon Species|Non-Canon Species]] categories. For an example, see [[Adanni]]. --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 21:33, 4 August 2007 (CDT)
==Ithassa Region, Races & Other Items==
I do not want to see any more deletion pages of original Ithassa Region races created by other members of the UFOP that have been redesigned as your sole creation, such as the Ramdii. Since I happen to know the simmer who named the Ramdii and on which yahoogroups list that name first appeared, I find this in poor taste.


*I just added some details to the Phaelasour listing. I have no idea about them. The same goes for the Ilbera who were mentioned by my First Officer. I will change them. Canreb
Since I am aware what RAdm. Hollis and RAdm Anassasi said to you, I ask you from this point forward to not alter or claim ownership of any more pages that were originally designed to the Ithassa Region by your fellow UFOP members. Since you were told to rename several pages over a year ago, I am rolling back some pages to their original status. Any subsequent pages will not be touched, but we will check to make sure you follow through on what you were instructed to do by the COs of the Ithassa Region. [[User:DCody|DCody]] 03:23, 5 July 2009 (EDT)


== Signature ==
In regards to that I have no idea what you are talking about. I have not touched anything within the Ithassa Region since haveing that conversation. What I have done is to take all the stuff I wrote for that region and reused it after renaming the races something else and placeing it within a region of my own design.


To leave the timestamp, type 4 tildes (e.g. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). It'll also provide a link to profile, and save you typing it all out manually ;) [[User:Salak|<font color="336600">Jay</font>]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 19:32, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
As I said then I will never create or write anything includeing posts as requested for that region ever. All the data that was deleted was done by someone else (Lt. Salak). He were good enough to send me copies of everything I had wrote before resetting everything back the way it was before I started adding things.


== Break tags are not necessary in most cases ==
In fact if you look above you will see where you spoke to me about this under '''Vonda & Subsequent Pages''' and '''Deleting Pages'''. Also the whole conversation regarding getting back what I had written and my willingness to change the names of the races and rewrite then as my own creations.


I noticed that you're using a lot of <nowiki><br></nowiki> tags in your markup. You'd be better off, instead, using bullet points. Also, instead of just bolding section headings, use the subheadings marketup. You can see examples of both these changes, [http://www.wiki.starbase118.net/wiki/index.php?title=Rush%2C_Heidi&diff=32815&oldid=32794 here]. --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 16:03, 3 September 2007 (CDT)
As for the Ramdii. Anything that is currently there should have been returned to it's original format before I touched it originally. I have not even looked at any of the pages for that region as they are off limits to me as ordered. Lt. Salak was nice enough to do all the work of deleteing all the work I had added, even all the original data that I had created that had no referances to anyone else's work in the region.  


== [[Devitt, Darla]] ==
I even asked him to delete the work I had done while a crewmember of the USS Triumphant which had operated in that region. So all the mission data and new discoveries we made as part of that crew should also have been deleted if I wrote them. Again in keeping with your orders to delete any and all works that I had a hand in within the Ithassa Region.


Just curious but does the USS Berlin mean the same ship as the Excelsior class vessel named in TNG? If not then feel free to remove the link. Also, naming convention for pages is surname first, then given name(s). - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt.JG Salak</font>]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 11:09, 19 October 2007 (CDT)
If for some reason this has not been done I apologize. Since I was still very new to the wiki at that time I left all the deletions to Lt. Salak. I had no idea and still am not sure exactly how a page can be returned to an older version altho Lt. Salak did explain it to me once and I might be able to figure it out on my own now.


*I used the name because I had read of it in one of the novels, so it probally is the same ship as that from the show. Also I will try and remember to do the names in the right order. Canreb [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 15:37, 19 October 2007 (CDT)
However I promised to never touch, write, create or in any way do anything regarding the Ithassa Region and I have kept that promise. I have never returned to or even viewed any of the pages linked to that area since being ordered to stop. [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 00:19, 6 July 2009 (EDT)


== [[Talk:Blank NPC page]] ==
: The problem is it was not done, and I'm at a complete loss to why this was not taking care of over a year ago. The "original" pages were marked slated for deletion, not your pages. Which is why I decided to wait before deleting any more of this in case it had not been finished. [[User:DCody|DCody]] 14:20, 6 July 2009 (EDT)


I left a note on the above linked talk page a while ago. If it's possible for the quiery to be answered? The group has various existing templates for PC's, and it wouldn't be too hard to adjust the page to work in the same way. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt.JG Salak</font>]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 05:43, 29 October 2007 (CDT)
:: Sir, I had all my original material moved and renamed well over a year ago. Even the stuff that was deleted that I had written has been moved and renamed. In many cases even rewritten so as to make it all completely original and totally my work.
*I have seen some of them....  I just added the blank one to the master crew list at the bottom of the list to make it easier for me or any other member of the crew who might want to use it to find it. canreb [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 20:31, 5 November 2007 (CST)
**Well you can easily paste the text of one of the templates onto a page by typing, for example <nowiki>{{subst:Bioadvanced}}</nowiki>, which would give you the text of [[Template:Bioadvanced]]. (subst being short for substitute, the <nowiki>{{}}</nowiki> bit around the text being code to insert a template, much as <nowiki>[[]]</nowiki> is the code for a link) Just thought that might be simpler and could be easily rolled out across the fleet too. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt.JG Salak</font>]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 13:30, 6 November 2007 (CST)
**Thanks.. I am still learning how to do things within the Wikki environment... a lot a trial and error... hopefully the finished product is not to shabby...[[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 20:47, 6 November 2007 (CST)


== Naming pages properly ==
:: At the time that all this was being done I was still extremely new to the wiki. Lt. Salak did a lot of the retrevial and deletions as far as I know. He was the only person other than yourself that I talked to about it.


Hello. Thank you for taking such an interest in the wiki. However, I do need you to please carefully review the [[Naming pages properly]] article. Some of your page names are not specific enough, such as [[Current Crew Roster]], and will have to be moved. Thanks! --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 19:28, 7 January 2008 (CST)
:: Due to my limited knowledge at that time of how to use the wiki I did not touch anything once I was told to stop and desist. In fact I am pretty sure that I have never gone back and viewed any of the Ithassa Region stuff since then. I thought it was all being taken care of. I appologize for it not being taken care of. I guess I should have double checked.


== Ship Nav ==
:: In fact that is about the time I got very busy creating the Trinity, Serellan and Jenatris sectors of space. A project that I got approval to work on first before I started since I learned my lesson to ask before I leap.
Don't forget your ship nav. ;-) Saves the trouble of hitting the back button on browsers. [[User:DCody|DCody]] 10:49, 10 January 2008 (CST)


== Naming pages properly:warning part II ==
:: I appologise for any trouble that this may have caused you or anyone else within the Starbase 118 community. It has never been my intent to cause anyone any problems. This has been and continues to be the best run Star Trek RPG that I have even had the privledge to participate in.
Hey, just a reminder about naming pages properly (see [[User talk:Canreb#Naming pages properly|above]]). -[[User:Varaan|Varaan]] 12:27, 10 January 2008 (CST)


== MA content ==
:: I hope that I will be able to contribute to this group for many more years. [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 21:30, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
When creating articles, unless you are adding something with details specific to our SB118 universe, just link to the appropriate [[ma:Main Page|Memory Alpha]] article. We aren't here to copy canon information already available, but to create our SB118 universe in detail. Thanks. -[[User:Varaan|Varaan]] 12:27, 10 January 2008 (CST)


== Eagle nav ==
::: Nonsense. It wasn't trouble as much it was a misunderstanding. What bothered several people were changes were being made that had not been simmed, and just created on the spot. Your contributions, whether on the Triumphant or elsewhere, are valued. :) However, with these Wiki pages, members are constantly adding stuff to existing pages, in part based on what the crew, whether past, present, or future, '''''sims'''''. This is why no Wiki page is ever truly complete. LOL What I hope I can encourage you to think on is just enough, but not completely flushed out... this especially becomes important if you pursue command. If we design too much detail, it curtails creativity.


I've removed a chunk of links as I thought they'd belong better on the as yet unwritten deck listings page. The menu was reading as a long, unbroken list and didn't look too good. If you really feel they should go on there then I'd suggest indenting them or breaking the list up into more section seperated by horizontal lines (<nowiki>----</nowiki>). I've also corrected a few links so that they point to where the Eagles pages should be instead of general disambiguation pages. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt.JG Salak</font>]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 10:06, 11 January 2008 (CST)
::: For example, let's take the Ramdii. ;) For years, even before I came back, simmers on all of the Ithassa crews used the ram-horned species that was a part of the FTU. They did not have a name. They are simply a NPC race for anyone to use. Then take one Lieutenant who comes along and says, you know, this race needs a name. Let's call them Ramdii, and put that on the main page of the Ithassa Region (where a bunch of these FTU races had been placed). That's all, just name them. Don't spell out the culture, or planets, or anything else. Someone else can step in and have fun with those elements.


== Eagle History ==
::: In this way, the Ramdii remain a flexible NPC race for anyone to contribute and add to. There's just enough there for other simmers to figure out what's been done before and work with, but allow for the maximum flexibility in case they get creative and add some distinctive element I could have never thought of in a million years. That's simming, my friend. ;) It's the collaborative effort of everyone, whether Trinity or Ithassa, or otherwise.


Just a thought - there's a not-quite-canon reference from an old roleplay sourcebook that mentions a USS Eagle, Constitution-class, as being crewed entirely by Andorians around the time of TOS. If you wanted to add it to past ships called 'Eagle' there's some info on Memory Alpha. [[User:Hutch|Hutch]] 16:09, 13 February 2008 (CST)
::: As such, I love your creativity. But... everyone else has a say in the design as well. We should write something one of these days. [[User:DCody|DCody]] 00:18, 7 July 2009 (EDT)
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>holds hands up* I'm largely to blame for the [[Previous ships called Eagle]] page, it's effectively a load of info dumped there and needs a clean up. I put what I could find up about the Eagle a year or two ago, long before it was actually recommissioned. A lot of it is from Wikipedia, with a bit from MA but there might be more at each now. If you want to try tidy it up, try to make each entry brief, we don't want redundancy. Wikipedia has info for ships named [[wp:USS Eagle|USS Eagle]] and [[wp:HMS Eagle|HMS Eagle]], there might be ships with other prefixes I've forgotten. You can link to wikipedia by typing wp: in front of a link name, e.g. [[wp:USS Eagle]], with wp replaced with ma for Memory Alpha. Add a vertical bar <nowiki>|</nowiki> at the end of the link to lose the prefix, e.g. [[wp:USS Eagle|USS Eagle]]. On later inspection, the wiki will automatically add the text minus the prefix to the link after the line. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 17:56, 13 February 2008 (CST)


== Attention ==
Thank you. I look forward to possible working with you some day as well. I understand what you mean by everyone being able to contribute and being able to add to a race, planet, story, mission, etc. The planet Miri that I created as part of the Trinity, Serellan Sector project has been used twice by the USS Eagle and as a result I had to add a lot of stuff and then alter some of my original stuff as well as a result of sims we posted. It is still a long way away from being a complete entry. I am still hopeing that other crews will use it as it is also a tribute to the original Star Trek since it was the location of one of the original TV episodes. I have ton's of ideas for mission on that planet. Same as I have for the other one that the USS Eagle has visited twice in the Trinity Sector. Cart'hen III. [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 01:29, 7 July 2009 (EDT)


Please see [[Talk:Cart'hen Star System]] for comments regarding the size of objects in that star system. Thanks. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 04:22, 4 March 2008 (CST)
== '''Main & Sub Categories''' ==
When you create pages and add a new '''[['''Category:MiraIII''']]'''' , I would like you to click on that link and create the category page at the same time (i.e. a short one sentence description, such as "Articles pertaining to...."). Our Categories Wanted page has exploded. ;)
<br> Additionally, your User talk page here is getting rather lengthy. :D Please think about breaking all this into smaller sections, or you can do what I do, and move talk pages to user talk archive pages. If you need help, let me know and I'll be happy to lend a hand. --[[User:DCody|Cody]] /<sup>[[User talk:DCody|talk page]]</sup>


== Eagle ==
== '''ILI and Changes''' ==
It is easier to simply edit the page, btw... :) We can rollback if/when needed. [[User:DCody|DCody]] 23:04, 8 September 2009 (EDT)


<s>1: The main ship page could do with a pic. If you have MSN (burwellian AT hotmail DOT co DOT uk) or YIM (burwellian), I have a folder of pics I managed to get off Star Trek Australia just before it went down so might be able to help there.</s> <sup>Done - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 21:32, 12 March 2008 (CDT)</sup>
== Corvian quadrant ==


2: The [[Previous ships called Eagle]] page needs work. I started it ages ago, whilst Eagle was still an unused ship, but the blurb needs editing down (ideally to a paragraph a ship), plus I've only put stuff on 3 of the Royal Navy's Eagles on there. Follow the link at the bottom and you'll find there have so far been a lot more than 3... 18 if I'm not mistaken. It might be worth picking and choosing the most prestigeous of ships as fitting over 20 ships onto one page could be interesting. As it's your ship and you seem an active editor, I thought you might want to pick up that baton, or know someone else who will :) - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 14:33, 6 March 2008 (CST)
Hi there. I just noticed the Corvian homeworld is listed as in the Beta Quadrant, but as [[Deep Space 10]] orbits the planet and the system is established as being in the [[Menthar Corridor]], it should actually be in the Alpha Quadrant. I'm not sure if that affects the sector numbering though. [[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' 13:31, 10 January 2014 (CST)


== Eagle ==
Thanks for that info... It does make a difference but it is easy to change and will be changed... not sure why my source for the info gave me that data but as long as it gets corrected that all that matters. [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] ([[User talk:Canreb|talk]]) 08:53, 13 January 2014 (CST)


Mission Archive looks good now it's been split up a bit under headers. I've made a comment on the Eagle talk page regarding the relevence of the content of the main article. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 18:06, 14 March 2008 (CDT)
== New ILI sections ==


:Oh, I undid your edits to Intrepid class as this is a wiki mainly for material that is canon only to us. Practically all the info you added to it seemed canon and thus is likely on the MA page (which by rule is linked from the ship nav). We don't want to duplicate what's on Memory Alpha really. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 18:41, 14 March 2008 (CDT)
Thank you very much for the kind words!


I moved the stuff like you asked... just thought it would be of use at the Intrepid Class spot I put it... since that location gives next to no info regarding that class... my mistake... sorry [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 19:13, 14 March 2008 (CDT)
I've created the [[Intelligent Lifeform Index/Gallery|separate galleries]]. I've incorporated the SDC nav links into a slimmer template that goes with the style of the new ILI. Eventually, each kind of species can have its own ILI template as seen with the forbidden species and the first few restricted species using [[Template:ILI Restricted]], [[Template:ILI Forbidden]], [[Template:ILI TBD]]. When they eventually all get properly changed to their specific type, then the original [[Template:ILI]] will be left for permitted species and will be modified to display a permitted species icon.–[[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' 15:59, 23 February 2014 (CST)


:It's no prob. Whole point of that page is just to tell us what ships in the fleet are of that class really. For canon stuff, always best to link to [[ma:Main Page|Memory Alpha]]. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 19:26, 14 March 2008 (CDT)
== Non-canon badge ==


==crew roster==
It's meant to go at the level of the page title. is it not showing up there for you? I've checked it on Firefox, Safari, and mobile Chrome. [[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' 16:52, 28 February 2014 (CST)
Whoops, he's one of Indy's engineers, lol. Thought you might like that layout, seems half the fleet uses it now. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 09:05, 15 March 2008 (CDT)


Actually YES I do... thanks... I had been considering makeing the change myself... but have been buzy doing other changes and upgrades... In fact I am trying to add or update the Cart'hen pages... as my Captain was hopeing it could become a well used plot location... [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 09:23, 15 March 2008 (CDT)
Oh, Internet Explorer! (::makes a fist:: Newman!) All right, I'll come up with an alternative. :) –[[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' 17:00, 28 February 2014 (CST)


:Think I'd been told that on the forums. It's one less thing on your to-do list then :) - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 09:27, 15 March 2008 (CDT)
:Is it lower now? PS, when editing a restricted, forbidden, TBD, just add Restricted, Forbidden, or TBD after Template:ILI to get the special sidebar for that category. So "Template:ILI Restricted" gets you this: [[Vaadwaur]]
::How about now?–[[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' 17:14, 28 February 2014 (CST)
Hmmm, the problem is if I go down any further it will look wrong on those other browsers I mentioned. Is it still covering up anything important like the search box or user controls? –[[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman''
:All right, great. Thanks for letting me know about this though! –[[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' 17:23, 28 February 2014 (CST)


== Sector ==
== ILI image sizes ==


a) Does the Sector have a proper name? The Carraya Sector? Sector 1034? Something like that?
Oh and just for reference, the images I think look best would put at 250px so there's no black around them (that's just there for now because there are many set below 250). For instance, here's [[Andorian|Andorian at 250]]
b) Have you seen [[:Image:Starbase118-map.jpg]] which could influence the development of the region? - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 13:15, 19 March 2008 (EDT)


Hello... I have a copy of the map in front of me that I had printed out and enlarged... Eventually I will post the map with the stars named that I have done up systems for...
:SORRY, I meant 250... I could make it so the template automatically displays it at 250, but then we'd have to go through and delete every image size setting across the ILI... so... yeah, probably not. :) –[[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' 17:40, 28 February 2014 (CST)


As for a Sector name... I thought Starbase 118... after all it is the most important item in this sector... it is the main base for the game... and it is almost in the center of the sector...
== SDC Alert ==


Go to the new page I made called Space Sector - Starbase 118 - I linked all the systems I have done work on to it so far... [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 13:20, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
{{SDC Alert}}


I enlarged the map to make it easier to measure distance for the info added to the different pages... also so I could add the names to the page and then post it... just the 1 sector by it self... [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 13:22, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
Added to the page [[Vorgon]]. Use <nowiki>{{SDC Alert}}</nowiki>
:Done. I've also added a new parameter to the ILI, ILI Restricted, ILI Forbidden, and ILI TBD templates. If the word for a species plural is just adding an s (i.e., human -> humans), the template simply adds the s for the "List of Named Whatevers." If the plural form is different, for instance several Q are not referred to as Qs, just add "plural = whatever" as an additional parameter. Examples include the [[Q]], [[Kubarey]], [[Jem'Hadar]], [[Gorn]], etc. [[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' 17:00, 1 March 2014 (CST)


:Okay. Surely the sector would have been known and named before an important base like SB118 would have been built there though? ;) - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 13:27, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
Updated [[Template:SDC]]. –[[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' 00:09, 17 March 2014 (CDT)


::Whilst on the subject, have you any source for where you got the sector co-ord layout? It seems to lack a third dimension, meaning anything at those co-ord covers an infinite vertical distance and is fairly useless. Given a sector is 20ly x 20ly x 20ly, it could mean any one of a large number of sectors. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 13:31, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
== Quarantine and Extinct templates ==


I used both the star charts located on this wikki and from the book '''Star Trek Star Charts - The complete Atlas of Star Trek by Geoffrey Mandel''' I need to add the third dimension factor for each system and item in Space Sector - Starbase 118 - I had been playing around with also calling the sector '''Trinity''' due to it being the juction point of 3 major space power's... I was thinking I would plot the exact location of each item useing the 3 different directions... with a - or + for the 3rd dimension... - being down and + being up...  [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 13:50, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
How are these?


The one referance I have been useing plus the book above describes space as a HUGE disk like shape... but with some depth... in this case either plus 10 lightyears or minus 10 lightyears depending on it's location either above or below the center line... the major part of the plate... or do we just want to list it as just from bottom to top ot top to bottom...[[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 13:56, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
{{quarantine}}


I wanted some input and suggestions on how to handle... list 3 dimensional locations... I figure my system has to match what this group wants to use... then I could add it at the Space Sector page under the location description of each item in the sector... Let me know what system YOU want me to use... that way it will be useful and make sense... [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 14:03, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
{{extinct}}


:[[Academy Library#Flight Control (Navigation)]] might be of use. What's there wasn't put up by me but was familiar to me before I joined the group too. On the Navigating a starship page, the Galactic Co-ords refer to XYZ, where X would be the border between Alpha & Gamma or Beta & Delta. Y would be the border between Alpha & Beta or Gamma & Delta. Z would be perpendicular to both running vertically. The Sun is [[wp:Milky Way|26,000 ± 1400 light-years]] from the [[wp:Sagittarius A*|Galactic Centre]]. We're a '''''barred''''' spiral galaxy by the way. And I can't think off hand of an issue with "Trinity sector". - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 14:34, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
Use <nowiki>{{quarantine}} and {{extinct}}</nowiki>.


OK... if '''Trinity''' is the choice I guess I need to make some changes... still have to learn how to delete a page after I make one by mistake... then I will creat the Trinity page and move everything... plus update it...[[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 21:20, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
Also, yes the plan is eventually to change the general ILI template to green/permitted, but that's once all the other non-categorized, etc. species have been properly changed over. –[[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' 13:02, 3 May 2014 (CDT)


:To delete a page, tag it with ''<nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki>'' and one of the sysops will do it. It's a sysop-only tool. Also, to move things, please either hit the move tab at the top of the page or call in a sysop to do it. That way, we don't lose the page history. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 23:36, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
== Readding introductions for species ==


I'm probably seeming a pain in the neck aren't I? :P Regardless, please see [[Talk:Trinity Sector]]. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 17:00, 27 March 2008 (EDT)
I'll think of something for the restricted to homeworld species. In the meantime, I noticed in a lot of the revamps that the introductory text for species is getting deleted. I think actually it's nice to have a few sentences to introduce the species before the main article (maybe even a quote or saying from said culture). I also don't think it's necessary to have the species name as a separate header, and it just clutters the table of contents. For instance, what do you think of the edits I made to [[Risian]]? –[[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' 09:52, 4 May 2014 (CDT)


== "Under Construction" ==
== Character page, pictures and such ==


There's no reason to [http://wiki.starbase118.net/wiki/index.php?title=Trinity_Sector&oldid=42102 mark articles] "Under Construction" -- the whole wiki is under constant construction ;) --[[User:FltAdml. Wolf|Wolf]] /<sup>[[User talk:FltAdml. Wolf|talk page]]</sup> 02:20, 21 March 2008 (EDT)
<nowiki>Hi! To change the size of a photo, just add however many pixels you want the width to be as in: [[File:Image.jpg|300px]] for instance. If you want a frame to be around the picture and for it to be displayed on the right as a thumbnail, just put in [[File:Image.jpg|thumb]]. If you want the thumbnail on the right [[File:Image.jpg|left]]. If you want the thumbnail bigger or smaller: [[File:Image.jpg|thumb|400px]]. </nowiki>


== Interwiki links. ==
More instructions on how to use images on a wiki are available [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images here]


1) Case you didn't see what I added to the talk page a few mins ago, see [http://wiki.starbase118.net/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACanreb&diff=42467&oldid=42194 here]<br />
You could put the three academy diplomas side by side by putting them in a basic table:
2) I take it you've worked out what I did with the links? The same works with wikipedia links too, just '''wp''' instead of '''ma''' in the markup. :) - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 17:13, 27 March 2008 (EDT)
<pre>
{|
|
{{Academy Diploma
|Name on Diploma=Tal Tel-ar
|Graduation Date=237707.31 
|Post2390=Yes
|Major=Security/Tactical
|Commandant=Andrus Jaxx
|Training CO=Leo Handley-Page
}}
|
{{Academy Diploma
|Name on Diploma=Tal Tel-ar
|Graduation Date=238107.31 
|Post2390=Yes
|Major=Communications/Operations
|Commandant=Andrus Jaxx
|Training CO=Leo Handley-Page
}}
|
{{Academy Diploma
|Name on Diploma=Tal Tel-ar
|Graduation Date= 238307.31 
|Post2390=Yes
|Major=Intelligence
|Commandant=Andrus Jaxx
|Training CO=Leo Handley-Page
}}
|}
</pre>


Yes I did see it... and I did figure it out... took me a few try's ... plus I checked some links that others had made to make sure I was doing it right...[[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 17:21, 27 March 2008 (EDT)
Which gives you this:
:I saw the few tries too :) It's a useful little tool, saves the arrow thing popping up, cuts the page length a tad and saves a ream of url code too :) Might save you a few seconds in future - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 17:23, 27 March 2008 (EDT)


== Trinity sector ==
{|
|
{{Academy Diploma
|Name on Diploma=Tal Tel-ar
|Graduation Date=237707.31 
|Post2390=Yes
|Major=Security/Tactical
|Commandant=Andrus Jaxx
|Training CO=Leo Handley-Page
}}
|
{{Academy Diploma
|Name on Diploma=Tal Tel-ar
|Graduation Date=238107.31 
|Post2390=Yes
|Major=Communications/Operations
|Commandant=Andrus Jaxx
|Training CO=Leo Handley-Page
}}
|
{{Academy Diploma
|Name on Diploma=Tal Tel-ar
|Graduation Date= 238307.31 
|Post2390=Yes
|Major=Intelligence
|Commandant=Andrus Jaxx
|Training CO=Leo Handley-Page
}}
|}


Hope you like the new menu. I've begun an overhaul of the Cart'hen system pages already, with the new Trinity Sector template, a Cart'hen system nav (top left), etc. The system page is an overview, the situation affecting the whole system, with planet stats kept to planet pages. I'd hope a similar overhaul could be done with the sector page such that it covers info regarding politics, stellar cartography of the sector, etc... with it becoming less of a list. Opinion? - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 10:44, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
However, as you can see, they're pretty big, so it might actually just make more sense to keep them stacked one on top of another or just display the first one. [[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' 18:30, 8 May 2014 (CDT)


Sounds good to me... I am just adding a few details and doing the race pages for the Rothians... then I will do it for the Cart'hen and the Raskor... I take it the over all work will be useful... and if so would another sector be of use?? [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 10:48, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
== Quote template ==
:Another sector? If your crew want to prep a neighbouring sector or something then fine, that's up to the lot of you as to whether you think it might be needed. The overall work probably will be useful in future, though the more it's all fleshed out now, the less there is to create in sims when you visit these places ;) Also, did you see my further comment regarding the Ophiucus 70 problem yet? After further thought, that name isn't really appropriate to the area. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 10:54, 28 March 2008 (EDT)


== STOP ==
just a heads up, you can use [[Template:Quote]] (made by someone else actually!) to make the quotes formated in the articles.


Right. What pages you want moved, say. I'll move them so we keep the edit history. - [[User:Salak|<font color="maroon">Lt. Salak</font>]][[Image:Nav-paladin.jpg|35px|USS Independence-A]]<sup><i>[[User talk:Salak|Talk]]</i></sup> 14:01, 2 April 2008 (EDT)
Example:
<pre>{{quote|To boldly go where no man has gone before!|James T. Kirk}}</pre>


OK... I only moved the info for Ophiucus system on the Trinity Sector page to Miri system on the Trinity Sector page... the entire system still has to be moved and each planet renamed... then the 1 inhabited planet needs to be moved to the new Miri page for that planet... When it is done I can then make the changes to explain the confussion in Federation records regarding the mix up in system names...Ophiucus 70 really being Miri system on the opposite side of Sol [[User:Canreb|Canreb]] 14:07, 2 April 2008 (EDT)
gives you
 
{{quote|To boldly go where no man has gone before!|James T. Kirk}}
 
–[[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' 03:08, 31 May 2014 (CDT)
 
== T/E Proposal ==
 
Sure post it in the forum thread! –[[User:Rich|Rich]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' 17:07, 31 May 2014 (CDT)
 
== Template:No Contact ==
 
Typing <nowiki>{{No Contact}}</nowiki> gives you
 
{{No Contact}}
 
This template has been added to [[:Category:ILI Templates]] along with the others. &#9668; [[User:Rich|'''Rich''']]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' &#9835;  03:38, 12 June 2014 (CDT)
 
== Template:Prime Directive ==
 
Typing <nowiki>{{Prime Directive}}</nowiki> gives you
 
{{Prime Directive}}
 
This template has been added to [[:Category:ILI Templates]] along with the others. &#9668; [[User:Rich|'''Rich''']]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' &#9835;  15:30, 22 June 2014 (CDT)
 
== ESP ==
 
Already done: [[T/E Rating System]] :)
 
As to the list of species, I think that'd be great! Just add it below on the page above! &#9668; [[User:Rich|'''Rich''']]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' &#9835;  16:28, 27 June 2014 (CDT)
 
:Hmm, I actually think it'd make more sense to make a separate ESP banner like the other templates (extinct, quarantine, etc.) that you could add to ESP equipped species since the vast majority would have none and that would be a lot of work updating them all just to say none. We could have the yes few many etc also be able to be specified in the separate banner. What do you think? &#9668; [[User:Rich|'''Rich''']]<sup>[[User talk:Rich|(talk page)]]</sup> ''aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman'' &#9835;  22:52, 14 July 2014 (CDT)
 
== Missed things and whatnot ==
 
No worries, sir! You will not believe how many times I've wanted to pull my hair out after being frustrated at why a template isn't working only to see that the whole problem was a missing | or }, haha! Also, thanks for the feedback on the factions and ship classes. You should chime in on the forum threads for both!
*[http://forums.starbase118.net/index.php/topic/10940-attn-starship-engineersenthusiasts-utopia-planitia-now-open/ Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards thread]
*[http://forums.starbase118.net/index.php/topic/10974-federation-relations-with-the-other-major-powers/ Factions thread]
*[http://forums.starbase118.net/index.php/topic/11229-state-of-the-federation-and-surrounds/ Factions part 2 thread]
I'm hoping to get others involved! [[User:Rich|'''♫ Rich''']] ▪ [[User talk:Rich|<small>talk</small>]] ▪ [[118Wiki:Operations|<small>Chief of Wiki Operations</small>]] 13:37, 26 January 2015 (CST)
 
==Caraadian Request==
Canreb, when I created the Caraadian species, the entire purpose was to have a species that did not originate in the Expanse, that had mysteriously left their homeworld tens of thousand of years ago and no longer knew where or what it was. This was important to the species, but even more important to the idea of the Expanse and how the individual cultures mixed, and why. While I was gone from the UFoP:SB118 for a couple of years, the Caraadians sat dormant and in the void, you saw fit to "update" the missing data. Unfortunately, that ruined the mystique that I had set up, and in some places contradicted ideas that I was trying to establish. I'm not mad, and I'm not blaming you. This is a wiki where anyone can edit things. But is there any chance I can rewrite at least some of this to bring it back to what I was trying to establish in the first place? Do I have to file an official form or something with the Species Development Committee? -[[User:Varaan|Varaan]] ([[User talk:Varaan|talk]]) 15:12, 10 April 2015 (CDT)
:Thanks. I will try to keep you in the loop. And now that I'm back, it should be easier to contact me about any of the Par'tha stuff, should you need to. -[[User:Varaan|Varaan]] ([[User talk:Varaan|talk]]) 09:42, 11 April 2015 (CDT)
::I think I'm done with the Caraadian entry, should you like to check it over. -[[User:Varaan|Varaan]] ([[User talk:Varaan|talk]]) 22:28, 12 April 2015 (CDT)
 
==Budding Species==
 
Hello, sir! Long time no speak! I've started playing a member of the budding species as a part of the Darwin's multispecies initiative and would like to go in a different direction than the animated gif of the mosquito-like creature that's on our current wiki page. (There's nothing in canon that says they're bugs, so I liked the idea of getting creative with what's already been specified on DS9!)
 
Would it be OK if I removed that picture for the time being? I'm working on getting a picture of my PNPC made, hopefully will be done within the next couple of weeks at the latest, so I could show that to you with a view to swapping it in when it's done? [[User:Chen|Chen]] ([[User talk:Chen|talk]]) 03:54, 13 April 2015 (CDT)
 
Hi - thanks for getting in touch about the picture for the budding species - the rationale for the appearance is included in the text on the same page you found the picture itself, which I'll also be submitting as part of the multispecies competition. Is this enough, or do you need anything else? [[User:Chen|Chen]] ([[User talk:Chen|talk]]) 07:21, 26 May 2015 (CDT)
 
==Mellitus Species==
Howdy, I found this orphaned page. Does it have anything to do with the ILI?  Otherwise, I would like to find a place for it.  http://wiki.starbase118.net/wiki/index.php/Mellitus [[User:Ashley Roy|Ashley Roy]] ([[User talk:Ashley Roy|talk]]) 21:31, 14 April 2015 (CDT)
 
==Card==
{{Card
|NAME=Tal Tel-ar
|IMAGE=Tel-ar.jpg|55
|SPECIES=<font size=1>Andorian</font>
|ABOUT=Chief of Security/Tactical ''USS Doyle-A''. Socially challenged, risk taking loner.
|TRAIT 1=Aggressive
|TRAIT 2=Risk Taker
|TRAIT 3=Unemotional
|TRAIT 4=Fierce
|INTEGRITY=9
|CUNNING=4
|STRENGTH=12
}}
Adjusted slightly. The template automatically fits the width to the window so if you want the head to be smaller, you'll need to use a different image. [[User:Rich|'''♫ Rich''']] ▪ [[118Wiki:Administrators|<small>118Wiki Administrator</small>]] ▪ [[User talk:Rich|<small>Send Message</small>]] 14:53, 25 May 2015 (CDT)
 
== About one of your pages - are you still using it? ==
 
The page for Angel Yukiko. It appears a bit blank, and I wanted to know if you still want it or need it for any reason before I start cleaning it up [[User:Ceciri|Ceciri]] ([[User talk:Ceciri|talk]]) 21:37, 5 June 2015 (CDT)
 
: Yeah, since it's pretty blank, or I'd have tried to link it to the NPC page, or PC page :/ [[User:Ceciri|Ceciri]] ([[User talk:Ceciri|talk]]) 11:48, 6 June 2015 (CDT)
 
== About the Avalon Sector page ==
 
I reverted the edit because I'm trying to make sure we have no redlinks. Once the page is up, feel free to relink it! [[User:Ceciri|Ceciri]] ([[User talk:Ceciri|talk]]) 11:10, 18 February 2016 (CST)
 
== Ohanze ==
 
Hey there! I saw that you were working on the Ohanze and wanted to let you know a number of things have been simmed about them previously on Veritas that you may find useful. LtCmdr Sky Blake has updated the [[Ohanze]] page with the information from our mission involving them but most specifically, the Ohanze do not have a single home world system (at least not in modern times). Also the Ohanze are native to the shoals and specifically the shadows. You won’t generally find them beyond the confines of the shoals. Lastly we established that the Ohanze have no decipherable unique language intelligible/speakable humanoids. The universal translater  instead simply gives direct translations of words and names into their literal meanings. Thus if the group known as the  Tusurn originates within the language of the ohanze then it would just be known as the “Glorious Defiance” since there wouldn’t be a specific Ohanze word used. Based on the characterization of the species, I’d also suggest they’d likely not be the “largest terrorist” group as they mostly keep to themselves, although perhaps they are members of the Black Sun Tribe that are known as raiders who prey on both Ohanze and non Ohanze alike for survival. I don’t want to suggest more can’t be added to the Ohanze in sims and whatnot but wanted to make sure you knew about some of these established traits so we can keep the species consistent. The Ohanze page should have the relevant detail. Let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thanks! [[User:Rich|'''♫ Rich''' <small>(Capt. Roshanara Rahman)</small>]] • [[User_talk:Rich|<small>'''REPLY'''</small>]] • [[118Wiki:Operations|<small>Wiki Ops Team</small>]] • [[Department of Veterans Affairs|<small>Veterans Affairs</small>]] 14:50, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:Thanka! I’ll definitely take a look and make notes. I’m also going to get my first and second officers Delano and Blake in touch with you because they helped develop a lot of the backstory and Blake in particular can help with cross referencing things in the wiki and Shoals “canon” we’ve developed over the past few years. [[User:Rich|'''♫ Rich''' <small>(Capt. Roshanara Rahman)</small>]] • [[User_talk:Rich|<small>'''REPLY'''</small>]] • [[118Wiki:Operations|<small>Wiki Ops Team</small>]] • [[Department of Veterans Affairs|<small>Veterans Affairs</small>]] 19:52, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::While we're on this topic, please hold off on adding stuff to the main Ohanze page. Since we have and likely will again be encountering the Ohanze in-sim, I want to make sure we don't run into any confusing lore-related issues and have really only been adding stuff that's been simmed (using the <nowiki> <ref> </nowiki> tool). I plan to go through the page you've draft with Rich and Cameron (since these two primarily spearheaded the species' inclusion in the first draft of the Shoals) and will add accordingly. :) '''[[User:Sky Blake|Deliera]]''' <big>♠</big> <small> [[USS Veritas|Veritas]] ▪ [[User talk:Sky Blake|talk]]</small> 09:05, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 
== References - a how-to ==
 
Every page about species, general NPCs, or often-used locations should utilize a references template. This can be achieved by adding <nowiki>{{References}}</nowiki> at the end of the page.
 
To add a reference to a sentence, you can link using this format: <nowiki> <ref>[https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sb118-veritas/6L6LJxB_GZs/Tf840XOhAwAJ ''"Of Sons and Daughters."'' (Part 1)], A.Eislas & LtCmdr S.Blake, {{USS|Veritas}}, SD 239602.14</ref></nowiki>
 
Which looks like this.<ref>[https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sb118-veritas/6L6LJxB_GZs/Tf840XOhAwAJ ''"Of Sons and Daughters."'' (Part 1)], A.Eislas & LtCmdr S.Blake, {{USS|Veritas}}, SD 239602.14</ref>
 
If information is added, it must already be simmed - though be certain not to sim just because you want to add information to a page. References can include links to the FNS, a ship's google group, and to memory alpha/beta.
 
Hope that helps! '''[[User:Sky Blake|Deliera]]''' <big>♠</big> <small> [[USS Veritas|Veritas]] ▪ [[User talk:Sky Blake|talk]]</small> 02:54, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 
== Additions to ILI pages ==
 
Hey, Daryl. The point of the ILI pages is not to 100% complete them before use, but to allow players to develop the species as they go through their own sims. Sometimes having a "bible for a species" is useful, but it is also restricting in ways that is not ideal for story-telling across ten ships. If a page is totally completed, players will feel that they must abide by what is on that page, with little room for development or creativity for their own. I imagine this is why many new players choose to stick with human characters, who can be from anywhere, of any culture, and of any look, rather than being restricted to the strangely singular cultured species we currently have on the wiki.
 
As such, I would rather that all species, not just the [[Ohanze]], only have their development simmed, rather than dictated by one person on the wiki. This gives players the ability to expand upon this species as they wish. When it comes to information regarding homeworlds, leaving those areas blank gives science officers or away teams the freedom to exercise creativity and come up with this information themselves. This is why we use the references system, so that players can go to those sims that refers to specific pieces of information and see how other writers approached using the species as well as what was done during missions. It's a guide and an active history, showing what was simmed for this species before.
 
Unless we are creating a brand new species for a mission that requires background information pertaining to that mission (like we did with the [[Ohanze]] and the [[Adovan]]s, as examples), I've been advised that we should not information to ILI pages that has not been simmed by players, as the ILI should be used to document what has already been simmed, rather than dictate what ''should'' be simmed - I’ve checked with [[User:Rich|Rich]] about this and he reiterated the message from the fleet admins that the wiki should primarily be documenting what’s been simmed, rather than trying to "complete" entries for completion sake - which I believe came alongside the development of the references template. I understand the use for uniformity in information, and that a complete ILI page looks better ''complete'', but in those cases, we can use the [[Template:Expansion needed|Expansion needed template]] to inform players that they can and should add new information that they have simmed to an ILI page. I understand how ILI pages were updated or expanded upon by the SDC, but as that team no longer exists, it is now up to the community as a whole to add new information to ILI pages, rather than a few, or the one, person.
 
In regards to the Ohanze specifically, the Veritas will still be using this species for missions in the Shoals. As such, we'd like the ability for our 12+ players to also expand upon them, rather than have to stick with what has been added to the wiki, yet not actually simmed.
 
Thank you for understanding. '''[[User:Sky Blake|Deliera]]''' <big>♠</big> <small> [[USS Veritas|Veritas]] ▪ [[User talk:Sky Blake|talk]]</small> 05:15, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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Important Links

Try a colour wheel, like this one maybe? :)

Category Reminder

Don't forget to add your categories. *wink, nod* You might want to either delete some of this or break it into smaller sections if you'd prefer to archive some of this. ;) DCody 23:37, 12 December 2008 (EST)

I managed to get a complete list of all the categories... and will add them later... still working on the 2 pages... when I finish them I will go through the list and find the ones that I think I should use... and boy is it a BIG list to go through... Canreb 00:14, 13 December 2008 (EST)
lol DCody 00:28, 13 December 2008 (EST)

The Move Button

If you give a page a wrong title, there's a tab at the top of the page, to the right of Edit, that says "Move". Try that, it allows you to retitle a page and thus means less deleting is needed. - Lt Cmdr. SalakUSS TigerTalk 18:02, 6 January 2009 (EST)

thanks... that will be a big help... sorry for any added work... I was trying to create episodes like the other ships have... Canreb 10:58, 8 January 2009 (EST)

Quite alright :) - Lt Cmdr. SalakUSS TigerTalk 13:11, 8 January 2009 (EST)

Devitt

Does Devitt belong on the Eagle's Current Crew Roster? Seems like she's an NPC when everyone else on it is a PC? *puzzled* - Lt Cmdr. SalakUSS TigerTalk 18:09, 24 March 2009 (EDT)

As per a conversation with first Captain Taboo of the USS Eagle and then Captain T'Pen of the USS Challenger, my primary character has requested a transfer to the USS Challenger, however I wanted to continue to be of some use on the USS Eagle so after much discussion with Captain Taboo we considered all the NPC's that I had been simming for and he suggested that I promote Devitt to be my new secondary... this will become official once the transfer has taken place. At that time I will make the final adjustments to transform her into my new PC on the Eagle... however I have been doing a lot of sims with her already... way more than with most of the other NPC's I use on a regular basis...Canreb 09:26, 25 March 2009 (EDT)

Ah right. That makes sense :) - Lt Cmdr. SalakUSS TigerTalk 12:10, 25 March 2009 (EDT)


Ithassa Region, Races & Other Items

I do not want to see any more deletion pages of original Ithassa Region races created by other members of the UFOP that have been redesigned as your sole creation, such as the Ramdii. Since I happen to know the simmer who named the Ramdii and on which yahoogroups list that name first appeared, I find this in poor taste.

Since I am aware what RAdm. Hollis and RAdm Anassasi said to you, I ask you from this point forward to not alter or claim ownership of any more pages that were originally designed to the Ithassa Region by your fellow UFOP members. Since you were told to rename several pages over a year ago, I am rolling back some pages to their original status. Any subsequent pages will not be touched, but we will check to make sure you follow through on what you were instructed to do by the COs of the Ithassa Region. DCody 03:23, 5 July 2009 (EDT)

In regards to that I have no idea what you are talking about. I have not touched anything within the Ithassa Region since haveing that conversation. What I have done is to take all the stuff I wrote for that region and reused it after renaming the races something else and placeing it within a region of my own design.

As I said then I will never create or write anything includeing posts as requested for that region ever. All the data that was deleted was done by someone else (Lt. Salak). He were good enough to send me copies of everything I had wrote before resetting everything back the way it was before I started adding things.

In fact if you look above you will see where you spoke to me about this under Vonda & Subsequent Pages and Deleting Pages. Also the whole conversation regarding getting back what I had written and my willingness to change the names of the races and rewrite then as my own creations.

As for the Ramdii. Anything that is currently there should have been returned to it's original format before I touched it originally. I have not even looked at any of the pages for that region as they are off limits to me as ordered. Lt. Salak was nice enough to do all the work of deleteing all the work I had added, even all the original data that I had created that had no referances to anyone else's work in the region.

I even asked him to delete the work I had done while a crewmember of the USS Triumphant which had operated in that region. So all the mission data and new discoveries we made as part of that crew should also have been deleted if I wrote them. Again in keeping with your orders to delete any and all works that I had a hand in within the Ithassa Region.

If for some reason this has not been done I apologize. Since I was still very new to the wiki at that time I left all the deletions to Lt. Salak. I had no idea and still am not sure exactly how a page can be returned to an older version altho Lt. Salak did explain it to me once and I might be able to figure it out on my own now.

However I promised to never touch, write, create or in any way do anything regarding the Ithassa Region and I have kept that promise. I have never returned to or even viewed any of the pages linked to that area since being ordered to stop. Canreb 00:19, 6 July 2009 (EDT)

The problem is it was not done, and I'm at a complete loss to why this was not taking care of over a year ago. The "original" pages were marked slated for deletion, not your pages. Which is why I decided to wait before deleting any more of this in case it had not been finished. DCody 14:20, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
Sir, I had all my original material moved and renamed well over a year ago. Even the stuff that was deleted that I had written has been moved and renamed. In many cases even rewritten so as to make it all completely original and totally my work.
At the time that all this was being done I was still extremely new to the wiki. Lt. Salak did a lot of the retrevial and deletions as far as I know. He was the only person other than yourself that I talked to about it.
Due to my limited knowledge at that time of how to use the wiki I did not touch anything once I was told to stop and desist. In fact I am pretty sure that I have never gone back and viewed any of the Ithassa Region stuff since then. I thought it was all being taken care of. I appologize for it not being taken care of. I guess I should have double checked.
In fact that is about the time I got very busy creating the Trinity, Serellan and Jenatris sectors of space. A project that I got approval to work on first before I started since I learned my lesson to ask before I leap.
I appologise for any trouble that this may have caused you or anyone else within the Starbase 118 community. It has never been my intent to cause anyone any problems. This has been and continues to be the best run Star Trek RPG that I have even had the privledge to participate in.
I hope that I will be able to contribute to this group for many more years. Canreb 21:30, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
Nonsense. It wasn't trouble as much it was a misunderstanding. What bothered several people were changes were being made that had not been simmed, and just created on the spot. Your contributions, whether on the Triumphant or elsewhere, are valued. :) However, with these Wiki pages, members are constantly adding stuff to existing pages, in part based on what the crew, whether past, present, or future, sims. This is why no Wiki page is ever truly complete. LOL What I hope I can encourage you to think on is just enough, but not completely flushed out... this especially becomes important if you pursue command. If we design too much detail, it curtails creativity.
For example, let's take the Ramdii. ;) For years, even before I came back, simmers on all of the Ithassa crews used the ram-horned species that was a part of the FTU. They did not have a name. They are simply a NPC race for anyone to use. Then take one Lieutenant who comes along and says, you know, this race needs a name. Let's call them Ramdii, and put that on the main page of the Ithassa Region (where a bunch of these FTU races had been placed). That's all, just name them. Don't spell out the culture, or planets, or anything else. Someone else can step in and have fun with those elements.
In this way, the Ramdii remain a flexible NPC race for anyone to contribute and add to. There's just enough there for other simmers to figure out what's been done before and work with, but allow for the maximum flexibility in case they get creative and add some distinctive element I could have never thought of in a million years. That's simming, my friend. ;) It's the collaborative effort of everyone, whether Trinity or Ithassa, or otherwise.
As such, I love your creativity. But... everyone else has a say in the design as well. We should write something one of these days. DCody 00:18, 7 July 2009 (EDT)

Thank you. I look forward to possible working with you some day as well. I understand what you mean by everyone being able to contribute and being able to add to a race, planet, story, mission, etc. The planet Miri that I created as part of the Trinity, Serellan Sector project has been used twice by the USS Eagle and as a result I had to add a lot of stuff and then alter some of my original stuff as well as a result of sims we posted. It is still a long way away from being a complete entry. I am still hopeing that other crews will use it as it is also a tribute to the original Star Trek since it was the location of one of the original TV episodes. I have ton's of ideas for mission on that planet. Same as I have for the other one that the USS Eagle has visited twice in the Trinity Sector. Cart'hen III. Canreb 01:29, 7 July 2009 (EDT)

Main & Sub Categories

When you create pages and add a new '''Category:MiraIII'''' , I would like you to click on that link and create the category page at the same time (i.e. a short one sentence description, such as "Articles pertaining to...."). Our Categories Wanted page has exploded. ;)
Additionally, your User talk page here is getting rather lengthy. :D Please think about breaking all this into smaller sections, or you can do what I do, and move talk pages to user talk archive pages. If you need help, let me know and I'll be happy to lend a hand. --Cody /talk page

ILI and Changes

It is easier to simply edit the page, btw... :) We can rollback if/when needed. DCody 23:04, 8 September 2009 (EDT)

Corvian quadrant

Hi there. I just noticed the Corvian homeworld is listed as in the Beta Quadrant, but as Deep Space 10 orbits the planet and the system is established as being in the Menthar Corridor, it should actually be in the Alpha Quadrant. I'm not sure if that affects the sector numbering though. –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman 13:31, 10 January 2014 (CST)

Thanks for that info... It does make a difference but it is easy to change and will be changed... not sure why my source for the info gave me that data but as long as it gets corrected that all that matters. Canreb (talk) 08:53, 13 January 2014 (CST)

New ILI sections

Thank you very much for the kind words!

I've created the separate galleries. I've incorporated the SDC nav links into a slimmer template that goes with the style of the new ILI. Eventually, each kind of species can have its own ILI template as seen with the forbidden species and the first few restricted species using Template:ILI Restricted, Template:ILI Forbidden, Template:ILI TBD. When they eventually all get properly changed to their specific type, then the original Template:ILI will be left for permitted species and will be modified to display a permitted species icon.–Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman 15:59, 23 February 2014 (CST)

Non-canon badge

It's meant to go at the level of the page title. is it not showing up there for you? I've checked it on Firefox, Safari, and mobile Chrome. –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman 16:52, 28 February 2014 (CST)

Oh, Internet Explorer! (::makes a fist:: Newman!) All right, I'll come up with an alternative. :) –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman 17:00, 28 February 2014 (CST)

Is it lower now? PS, when editing a restricted, forbidden, TBD, just add Restricted, Forbidden, or TBD after Template:ILI to get the special sidebar for that category. So "Template:ILI Restricted" gets you this: Vaadwaur
How about now?–Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman 17:14, 28 February 2014 (CST)

Hmmm, the problem is if I go down any further it will look wrong on those other browsers I mentioned. Is it still covering up anything important like the search box or user controls? –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman

All right, great. Thanks for letting me know about this though! –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman 17:23, 28 February 2014 (CST)

ILI image sizes

Oh and just for reference, the images I think look best would put at 250px so there's no black around them (that's just there for now because there are many set below 250). For instance, here's Andorian at 250

SORRY, I meant 250... I could make it so the template automatically displays it at 250, but then we'd have to go through and delete every image size setting across the ILI... so... yeah, probably not. :) –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman 17:40, 28 February 2014 (CST)

SDC Alert



Class 1 Priority Alert

Starfleet Intelligence has designated this species a

Class 1 Priority




Added to the page Vorgon. Use {{SDC Alert}}

Done. I've also added a new parameter to the ILI, ILI Restricted, ILI Forbidden, and ILI TBD templates. If the word for a species plural is just adding an s (i.e., human -> humans), the template simply adds the s for the "List of Named Whatevers." If the plural form is different, for instance several Q are not referred to as Qs, just add "plural = whatever" as an additional parameter. Examples include the Q, Kubarey, Jem'Hadar, Gorn, etc. –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman 17:00, 1 March 2014 (CST)

Updated Template:SDC. –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman 00:09, 17 March 2014 (CDT)

Quarantine and Extinct templates

How are these?



Quarantine Alert

By order of Starfleet Medical

Avoid All Contact

Authorized Personnel Only






REV 239602.22
Extinct Species Notice

attention: This species is

believed extinct

Available data is limited

DEPARTMENT of XENOLOGY




Use {{quarantine}} and {{extinct}}.

Also, yes the plan is eventually to change the general ILI template to green/permitted, but that's once all the other non-categorized, etc. species have been properly changed over. –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman 13:02, 3 May 2014 (CDT)

Readding introductions for species

I'll think of something for the restricted to homeworld species. In the meantime, I noticed in a lot of the revamps that the introductory text for species is getting deleted. I think actually it's nice to have a few sentences to introduce the species before the main article (maybe even a quote or saying from said culture). I also don't think it's necessary to have the species name as a separate header, and it just clutters the table of contents. For instance, what do you think of the edits I made to Risian? –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman 09:52, 4 May 2014 (CDT)

Character page, pictures and such

Hi! To change the size of a photo, just add however many pixels you want the width to be as in: [[File:Image.jpg|300px]] for instance. If you want a frame to be around the picture and for it to be displayed on the right as a thumbnail, just put in [[File:Image.jpg|thumb]]. If you want the thumbnail on the right [[File:Image.jpg|left]]. If you want the thumbnail bigger or smaller: [[File:Image.jpg|thumb|400px]].

More instructions on how to use images on a wiki are available here

You could put the three academy diplomas side by side by putting them in a basic table:

{|
|
{{Academy Diploma
|Name on Diploma=Tal Tel-ar
|Graduation Date=237707.31  
|Post2390=Yes
|Major=Security/Tactical
|Commandant=Andrus Jaxx
|Training CO=Leo Handley-Page
}}
|
{{Academy Diploma
|Name on Diploma=Tal Tel-ar
|Graduation Date=238107.31   
|Post2390=Yes
|Major=Communications/Operations 
|Commandant=Andrus Jaxx
|Training CO=Leo Handley-Page
}}
|
{{Academy Diploma
|Name on Diploma=Tal Tel-ar
|Graduation Date= 238307.31  
|Post2390=Yes
|Major=Intelligence
|Commandant=Andrus Jaxx
|Training CO=Leo Handley-Page
}}
|}

Which gives you this:

Tal Tel-ar
Security/Tactical
Commissioned on 237707.31
Andrus Jaxx Leo Handley-Page
Academy Commandant
Starfleet Academy
Training Officer
Starbase 118 Campus
AcademyDiploma-Post2390.png
Tal Tel-ar
Communications/Operations
Commissioned on 238107.31
Andrus Jaxx Leo Handley-Page
Academy Commandant
Starfleet Academy
Training Officer
Starbase 118 Campus
AcademyDiploma-Post2390.png
Tal Tel-ar
Intelligence
Commissioned on 238307.31
Andrus Jaxx Leo Handley-Page
Academy Commandant
Starfleet Academy
Training Officer
Starbase 118 Campus
AcademyDiploma-Post2390.png

However, as you can see, they're pretty big, so it might actually just make more sense to keep them stacked one on top of another or just display the first one. –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman 18:30, 8 May 2014 (CDT)

Quote template

just a heads up, you can use Template:Quote (made by someone else actually!) to make the quotes formated in the articles.

Example:

{{quote|To boldly go where no man has gone before!|James T. Kirk}}

gives you

"To boldly go where no man has gone before!"
— James T. Kirk

Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman 03:08, 31 May 2014 (CDT)

T/E Proposal

Sure post it in the forum thread! –Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman 17:07, 31 May 2014 (CDT)

Template:No Contact

Typing {{No Contact}} gives you



Restricted Contact Notice

Do not approach

CONTACT PROHIBITED

NOTICE: This species has been restricted to its homeworld




This template has been added to Category:ILI Templates along with the others. ◄ Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman ♫ 03:38, 12 June 2014 (CDT)

Template:Prime Directive

Typing {{Prime Directive}} gives you



PRIME DIRECTIVE
PRECAUTIONS IN EFFECT

This species is protected per
Starfleet General Order 1


No personnel may interfere with
its normal development




This template has been added to Category:ILI Templates along with the others. ◄ Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman ♫ 15:30, 22 June 2014 (CDT)

ESP

Already done: T/E Rating System :)

As to the list of species, I think that'd be great! Just add it below on the page above! ◄ Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman ♫ 16:28, 27 June 2014 (CDT)

Hmm, I actually think it'd make more sense to make a separate ESP banner like the other templates (extinct, quarantine, etc.) that you could add to ESP equipped species since the vast majority would have none and that would be a lot of work updating them all just to say none. We could have the yes few many etc also be able to be specified in the separate banner. What do you think? ◄ Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman ♫ 22:52, 14 July 2014 (CDT)

Missed things and whatnot

No worries, sir! You will not believe how many times I've wanted to pull my hair out after being frustrated at why a template isn't working only to see that the whole problem was a missing | or }, haha! Also, thanks for the feedback on the factions and ship classes. You should chime in on the forum threads for both!

I'm hoping to get others involved! ♫ RichtalkChief of Wiki Operations 13:37, 26 January 2015 (CST)

Caraadian Request

Canreb, when I created the Caraadian species, the entire purpose was to have a species that did not originate in the Expanse, that had mysteriously left their homeworld tens of thousand of years ago and no longer knew where or what it was. This was important to the species, but even more important to the idea of the Expanse and how the individual cultures mixed, and why. While I was gone from the UFoP:SB118 for a couple of years, the Caraadians sat dormant and in the void, you saw fit to "update" the missing data. Unfortunately, that ruined the mystique that I had set up, and in some places contradicted ideas that I was trying to establish. I'm not mad, and I'm not blaming you. This is a wiki where anyone can edit things. But is there any chance I can rewrite at least some of this to bring it back to what I was trying to establish in the first place? Do I have to file an official form or something with the Species Development Committee? -Varaan (talk) 15:12, 10 April 2015 (CDT)

Thanks. I will try to keep you in the loop. And now that I'm back, it should be easier to contact me about any of the Par'tha stuff, should you need to. -Varaan (talk) 09:42, 11 April 2015 (CDT)
I think I'm done with the Caraadian entry, should you like to check it over. -Varaan (talk) 22:28, 12 April 2015 (CDT)

Budding Species

Hello, sir! Long time no speak! I've started playing a member of the budding species as a part of the Darwin's multispecies initiative and would like to go in a different direction than the animated gif of the mosquito-like creature that's on our current wiki page. (There's nothing in canon that says they're bugs, so I liked the idea of getting creative with what's already been specified on DS9!)

Would it be OK if I removed that picture for the time being? I'm working on getting a picture of my PNPC made, hopefully will be done within the next couple of weeks at the latest, so I could show that to you with a view to swapping it in when it's done? Chen (talk) 03:54, 13 April 2015 (CDT)

Hi - thanks for getting in touch about the picture for the budding species - the rationale for the appearance is included in the text on the same page you found the picture itself, which I'll also be submitting as part of the multispecies competition. Is this enough, or do you need anything else? Chen (talk) 07:21, 26 May 2015 (CDT)

Mellitus Species

Howdy, I found this orphaned page. Does it have anything to do with the ILI? Otherwise, I would like to find a place for it. http://wiki.starbase118.net/wiki/index.php/Mellitus Ashley Roy (talk) 21:31, 14 April 2015 (CDT)

Card

Tal Tel-ar
Andorian
Chief of Security/Tactical USS Doyle-A. Socially challenged, risk taking loner.
  • Aggressive
  • Risk Taker
  • Unemotional
  • Fierce
9 4 12
Card.png
Tel-ar.jpg

Adjusted slightly. The template automatically fits the width to the window so if you want the head to be smaller, you'll need to use a different image. ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 14:53, 25 May 2015 (CDT)

About one of your pages - are you still using it?

The page for Angel Yukiko. It appears a bit blank, and I wanted to know if you still want it or need it for any reason before I start cleaning it up Ceciri (talk) 21:37, 5 June 2015 (CDT)

Yeah, since it's pretty blank, or I'd have tried to link it to the NPC page, or PC page :/ Ceciri (talk) 11:48, 6 June 2015 (CDT)

About the Avalon Sector page

I reverted the edit because I'm trying to make sure we have no redlinks. Once the page is up, feel free to relink it! Ceciri (talk) 11:10, 18 February 2016 (CST)

Ohanze

Hey there! I saw that you were working on the Ohanze and wanted to let you know a number of things have been simmed about them previously on Veritas that you may find useful. LtCmdr Sky Blake has updated the Ohanze page with the information from our mission involving them but most specifically, the Ohanze do not have a single home world system (at least not in modern times). Also the Ohanze are native to the shoals and specifically the shadows. You won’t generally find them beyond the confines of the shoals. Lastly we established that the Ohanze have no decipherable unique language intelligible/speakable humanoids. The universal translater instead simply gives direct translations of words and names into their literal meanings. Thus if the group known as the Tusurn originates within the language of the ohanze then it would just be known as the “Glorious Defiance” since there wouldn’t be a specific Ohanze word used. Based on the characterization of the species, I’d also suggest they’d likely not be the “largest terrorist” group as they mostly keep to themselves, although perhaps they are members of the Black Sun Tribe that are known as raiders who prey on both Ohanze and non Ohanze alike for survival. I don’t want to suggest more can’t be added to the Ohanze in sims and whatnot but wanted to make sure you knew about some of these established traits so we can keep the species consistent. The Ohanze page should have the relevant detail. Let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thanks! ♫ Rich (Capt. Roshanara Rahman)REPLYWiki Ops TeamVeterans Affairs 14:50, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanka! I’ll definitely take a look and make notes. I’m also going to get my first and second officers Delano and Blake in touch with you because they helped develop a lot of the backstory and Blake in particular can help with cross referencing things in the wiki and Shoals “canon” we’ve developed over the past few years. ♫ Rich (Capt. Roshanara Rahman)REPLYWiki Ops TeamVeterans Affairs 19:52, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
While we're on this topic, please hold off on adding stuff to the main Ohanze page. Since we have and likely will again be encountering the Ohanze in-sim, I want to make sure we don't run into any confusing lore-related issues and have really only been adding stuff that's been simmed (using the <ref> tool). I plan to go through the page you've draft with Rich and Cameron (since these two primarily spearheaded the species' inclusion in the first draft of the Shoals) and will add accordingly. :) Deliera Veritastalk 09:05, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

References - a how-to

Every page about species, general NPCs, or often-used locations should utilize a references template. This can be achieved by adding {{References}} at the end of the page.

To add a reference to a sentence, you can link using this format: <ref>[https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sb118-veritas/6L6LJxB_GZs/Tf840XOhAwAJ ''"Of Sons and Daughters."'' (Part 1)], A.Eislas & LtCmdr S.Blake, {{USS|Veritas}}, SD 239602.14</ref>

Which looks like this.[1]

If information is added, it must already be simmed - though be certain not to sim just because you want to add information to a page. References can include links to the FNS, a ship's google group, and to memory alpha/beta.

Hope that helps! Deliera Veritastalk 02:54, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Additions to ILI pages

Hey, Daryl. The point of the ILI pages is not to 100% complete them before use, but to allow players to develop the species as they go through their own sims. Sometimes having a "bible for a species" is useful, but it is also restricting in ways that is not ideal for story-telling across ten ships. If a page is totally completed, players will feel that they must abide by what is on that page, with little room for development or creativity for their own. I imagine this is why many new players choose to stick with human characters, who can be from anywhere, of any culture, and of any look, rather than being restricted to the strangely singular cultured species we currently have on the wiki.

As such, I would rather that all species, not just the Ohanze, only have their development simmed, rather than dictated by one person on the wiki. This gives players the ability to expand upon this species as they wish. When it comes to information regarding homeworlds, leaving those areas blank gives science officers or away teams the freedom to exercise creativity and come up with this information themselves. This is why we use the references system, so that players can go to those sims that refers to specific pieces of information and see how other writers approached using the species as well as what was done during missions. It's a guide and an active history, showing what was simmed for this species before.

Unless we are creating a brand new species for a mission that requires background information pertaining to that mission (like we did with the Ohanze and the Adovans, as examples), I've been advised that we should not information to ILI pages that has not been simmed by players, as the ILI should be used to document what has already been simmed, rather than dictate what should be simmed - I’ve checked with Rich about this and he reiterated the message from the fleet admins that the wiki should primarily be documenting what’s been simmed, rather than trying to "complete" entries for completion sake - which I believe came alongside the development of the references template. I understand the use for uniformity in information, and that a complete ILI page looks better complete, but in those cases, we can use the Expansion needed template to inform players that they can and should add new information that they have simmed to an ILI page. I understand how ILI pages were updated or expanded upon by the SDC, but as that team no longer exists, it is now up to the community as a whole to add new information to ILI pages, rather than a few, or the one, person.

In regards to the Ohanze specifically, the Veritas will still be using this species for missions in the Shoals. As such, we'd like the ability for our 12+ players to also expand upon them, rather than have to stick with what has been added to the wiki, yet not actually simmed.

Thank you for understanding. Deliera Veritastalk 05:15, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

  1. "Of Sons and Daughters." (Part 1), A.Eislas & LtCmdr S.Blake, USS Veritas, SD 239602.14