User talk:Ceciri/Archive1

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Welcome to the 118Wiki!

Hello and welcome to both StarBase 118 and the 118Wiki! I see you've already made some very helpful edits. Since it looks like your interest is the ILI, I'd suggest introducing yourself to Daryl aka Commander Tal Tel-ar, who is the team facilitator for the Species Development Committee.

I did notice you've been adding the various ILI special templates such as quarantine, etc. Just one style note. On the wiki, we like to keep the LCARS style header as the highest element of a page. Thus, the final look would be more like this: Q_(species).

If you have any questions about editing or the 118Wiki in general, feel free to ask! Otherwise, thanks again for contributing and welcome again to the fleet! ♫ Rich(talk page) aka Lt.Cmdr. Rahman/Bakari, Chief of Wiki Operations 07:37, 17 December 2014 (CST)

Alumni category

Hi there! I noticed you removed the Constitution-B category from Sariel Locke. As Locke has served as the Constitution-B's Chief Science Officer, he should be added to Category:Constitution-B Alumni, as once an officer leaves a posting, an alumni category is added, as well as the new ship's PC category. If you have any questions, let me know! :) ♣ Deliera talk Vice Chief of Wiki Ops 00:31, 25 January 2015 (CST)

blanked pages

Hey, nice job so far. For the character info on blanked pages, you don't need to hide it, and you can still categorize them. We want People to be able to read it directly as part of the historical record. See Sidney Riley as another example. Thanks, again! ♫ RichtalkChief of Wiki Operations 11:44, 26 January 2015 (CST)

Deleting pages

No worries. Also, no need to blank a page when queuing it for deletion. Just putting the deletion template is good enough. ♫ RichtalkChief of Wiki Operations 19:46, 26 January 2015 (CST)


Thank you for the information.

I will update when I have time. If you find any other work that belongs to me please email me.

Thank You Lt Cmdr Siris

Service History template

Hey there! So some thoughts:

  • I'd avoid HTML as much as possible. Yes, it can be a short cut, but there's usually wiki markup that is simpler that can replace much of it, and you can avoid the issues you get such as now when you're trying to merge the two.
  • Jackford has created a template that incorporates a lot of similar functionality such as having merged rows: Template:RoundTable
    • It lacks any documentation, and I'm not a fan of how he named the variables (Rank 2 or 2nd Rank would have been more intuitive for users than R2 for instance), but you can see an example of the merging at Columbia Crew History.
    • So anyway, it might be easier to take his template (and the subtemplates it uses such for crew history specifically) as a starting point and modifying it to suit your needs. I'd have it so instead of basing it on the character name, the first and anchoring variable would be the ship/station.
  • That said, I do not really find these kind of templates worth the time and effort it takes to build and troubleshoot them as they end up not being used by most general 118 members. They ultimately are just as complex to use as the standard way of creating a service table on the wiki. Furthermore, at least by doing it "the long way," general members learn useful skills such as how to create and edit a table in wiki format (and the use of rowspan for merged rows) whereas the knowledge to use a specific template is non-transferable elsewhere on the wiki.

♫ RichtalkChief of Wiki Operations 14:03, 31 January 2015 (CST)


Easiest would be to submit it via forums. Just make a new thread for the article like you've seen others do.♫ RichtalkChief of Wiki Operations 07:12, 4 February 2015 (CST)

individuals of a species categories

Hi there. The categories of a plural for a species are so that all members of those species are categorized in that category. It is distinct from the larger basic species category. Ex. Category:Vulcan vs Category:Vulcans. Furthermore these plural categories are linked via the ILI sidebar templates for those species. ♫ RichtalkChief of Wiki Operations 17:15, 25 February 2015 (CST)

No worries! Also can I ask that when you mark pages for deletion that you don't blank them. Just add the delete template at the top. Makes it easier to double check before confirming the delete. Thanks And happy editing! :) ♫ RichtalkChief of Wiki Operations 17:28, 25 February 2015 (CST)


Please do not unilaterally revert an administrator's changes without discussing them first with the administrator. The species categories were updated based on their listing in the ILI permitted gallery by User:Canreb, head of SDC. Likewise, those listed as permitted but not added to the Gallery such as the Xindi species were added to the gallery. These changes were done after the issue was brought up in the Captains Council. ♫ RichtalkChief of Wiki Operations 07:53, 1 March 2015 (CST)

Well, the issue was just brought up last night, and it doesn't actually involve changing any species ratings, just making sure the wiki/ILI accurately reflects what the SDC already decided. The ILI as with any part of the wiki is open to editing by all as along as the edits are constructive. Ensuring that pages are properly categorized for instance is one of the defined roles of the 118Wiki:Administrators. We generally don't just change things without a good reason. :)
Also, I'd advise refraining from unnecessarily hostile or aggressive edit summaries that are chastising in tone. Please remember we are all just trying to build the best wiki possible for our community. Mistakes can and will happen from time to time but no one is trying to screw things up or sabotage the wiki. It's important to foster a positive, welcoming atmosphere for all members on the wiki, forums, and elsewhere, especially for newer members just getting started. COs and other staff members may also consider inflammatory remarks, whether on a simming group or on the wiki/forums/chat, in violation of our community rules (especially if shown to be repeated behavior), so it's best not to develop such habits. ♫ RichtalkChief of Wiki Operations 08:47, 1 March 2015 (CST)


Thanks for the help, Nicholas! Re: Marines, I think we'll just use the Category:Marines from now on and have the other category be about the organization. ♫ Richtalk 18:47, 26 March 2015 (CDT)


Hi - thanks for updating the categories on Vance Sheridan's page. I'd been meaning to go back and do that, but forgot! You've reminded me of something I was going to take a look at before I disappeared last year, which is to rename categories across the board so that they correspond with the way we're referring to specific duty posts at the moment (so everyone has Counsellors, Medical Officers, First Officers, Intelligence Officers, Captains etc) - wanted to give you a heads up so you don't feel like I'm overwriting your edit on Sheridan's page when the time comes! Chen (talk) 03:58, 27 March 2015 (CDT)

SB118 Alum

Hello. I sent a message to Rich about it, asking which would be the better one to keep. He said that since traditionally it has been referenced as the capital "B" in the middle, that we should use that one. Hope I'm not stepping on your toes. This is a mighty large task, categorizing the alumni. Just trying to help out. -Varaan (talk) 01:46, 29 March 2015 (CDT)

Here's a question: Should the Alumni pages be restricted to Primary and Secondary characters? Should NPCs be left out by virtue of them being NPCs and not actual characters? I say NOT NPCs. What do you think? -Varaan (talk) 02:19, 29 March 2015 (CDT)

Category tweak

Took me a little bit to see what you'd corrected until I saw there was an extra "i" in Vigilant. I thought it was hilarious. Try saying "Vigiliant" out loud. "Vig-ili-ant". XD

I have an odd sense of humor. ♣ Deliera talk Chief of Wiki Ops 01:47, 6 April 2015 (CDT)

Ventu & Pirates

For sure, and I'd be glad to have her issue a statement! --Onewhoisseveral (talk) 10:49, 6 April 2015 (CDT)

PersonalHistoryListing template

Any way to fix the problem of having "black" printing on a black background if the pip/uniform colour you choose is black (for Intel)? Could we make it white somehow, so it can be read? -Varaan (talk) 04:14, 8 April 2015 (CDT)

Thanks. However (and maybe it's my browser or something) but now the red "position" words are displaying in light blue, the gold are displaying in green, and the black (now white) are displaying in purple. Do you get that too, or is there something wrong with my computer? -Varaan (talk) 15:06, 8 April 2015 (CDT)
You actually had the right idea with the ifeq function, but you had an extra second unnamed variable, and, since people use Black and black, a switch function works well. Anyway, now it should automatically make black into white. ♫ Richtalk118Wiki Administrator 19:07, 8 April 2015 (CDT)

Spartan registry number

Hey, where'd you get the Spartan's registry number? It's lower than the Defiant's (prototype). Based on Defiant (74205), Valiant (74210), and Sao Paulo/Defiant (75633), and the Registry Number guide we have elsewhere, it seems quite low. ♫ Richtalk118Wiki Administrator 05:21, 8 April 2015 (CDT)

Gotcha. One of these days Rahman's gonna go crazy and hop into an EV suit with a bucket of paint and start rambling to herself as she repaints the fleet. ;)
Maybe Ceciri will join her in this epic quest. ♫ Richtalk118Wiki Administrator 12:48, 8 April 2015 (CDT)

ASDB and old class pages

Yes, the plan is to convert all old class pages to the new Utopia Planitia/ASDB look (and with an accompanying SCE review in the forums for each). ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 19:35, 4 May 2015 (CDT)

Admin application

The information you seek: How to Become an Admin ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 16:30, 13 May 2015 (CDT)

Missed Character

Wow... totally forgot all about that one. Not sure how but I never did get around to adding the rest of the data and now I am not sure I even remember enough to fill it out. I can delete the page off the wiki which unfortunately is the best solution I think since It is basically an empty page. Was that what you were thinking?? Canreb (talk) 06:10, 6 June 2015 (CDT)

Re: Messages

Hullo! It's been a while since I've even seen that template - that said, I'm not entirely sure how you found it, too. :-| Thanks for reminding me that it actually exists. Since I don't use it at all, I've cued it for deletion. As for Wiki Ops, I'll get back to you when I can. ♣ Deliera talk 02:03, 7 June 2015 (CDT)

Andorian Culture

Hi - if it's an older version that replicates information then please feel free to delete - I'm intending to tidy this up (it was a project I was working on before I took LoA) but need to find the time to get round to it, which may be a couple of weeks.

If it looks like there's a lot of information that will go missing then if you could leave it for now for me to take a look at then that would be great. :) Chen (talk) 11:21, 7 June 2015 (CDT)

Template:Par'tha Races

Actually, I'm not using that template anymore, so it could be deleted outright. Thanks. -Varaan (talk) 22:31, 7 June 2015 (CDT)

Ramdii - Ramd

I had to refamiliarize myself- I was a Wiki Administrator at the time and we had a situation develop which is why I put sysop protection on that page and several others- which is no longer necessary. Go ahead and covert it to the current format/move it to main. We can always relink it after its been converted. :) DCody (talk) 23:42, 7 June 2015 (CDT)

Getting back to you

According to the group email list, you never left the group to begin with? ♣ Deliera talk 18:00, 9 June 2015 (CDT)

Star and Planet Updates

Great idea. I had originally NOT put that stuff in because most of us are not astrophysically-aware, and don't know what some of that stuff mean (so I kinda "dumbed" it down). Maybe we should add and example or two to each template page to explain what some of the terms mean. Whaddaya think? -Varaan (talk) 07:42, 11 June 2015 (CDT)

I know that on some wiki templates that there's some coding that if you DON'T fill out a field, it doesn't show it in the template. if we could do that, then people could just enter the fields they want or know how to do, but someone could always go back later to fill them in if needed. -Varaan (talk) 08:10, 11 June 2015 (CDT)
Looks great. We don't need to create a "new" template, right? Just change the coding on the current template to the new one? Does it make unused fields "invisible?" -Varaan (talk) 11:44, 14 June 2015 (CDT)

Constitution Summary

Fixed it: UFOP Constitution/Summary. I'm getting old... ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 07:01, 14 June 2015 (CDT)

Constitution Rewrite pages

No, do not delete or modify any of the Constitution Rewrite pages. Although dormant, it is still an ongoing project that will be picked up at some point. ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 06:35, 23 June 2015 (CDT)

Starfleet's Most Wanted List

Just in case (after seeing the Most Wanted list- lol), Krax reappeared briefly during a Gemini mission and took out a few Klingon ships so he could hand them an account as war reparations for the Thracians. ;) DCody (talk) 00:23, 3 July 2015 (CDT)

JJ images

Go ahead and delete them. They are copyright with no attribution/permission and not from a Paramount/CBS licensed source so fair use is hard to argue. ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 06:20, 11 July 2015 (CDT)

Unnamed humanoids (24th century)

I think this was something I copied off of Memory Alpha. Can't was eight years ago. We could probably just delete it if there are no links to that page. Save some space. -Varaan (talk) 05:05, 12 July 2015 (CDT)

Serial numbers

Never mind, I see the confusion now. My email records with her (I was her Academy CO) show that she required additional help into February after the official class ended in Jan. ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 23:42, 24 July 2015 (CDT)

SIM namespace

Where is this sim namespace you speak of? I know of it's existence but I honestly can't find the page. Unless it's a category and doesn't have a page.

What's the bet I'm looking in all the wrong places for it. ♣ Deliera talkforums 23:44, 26 July 2015 (CDT)

Awesome, thank you! Be sure to link that when explaining the namespace's purpose. ;) ♣ Deliera talkforums 17:53, 27 July 2015 (CDT)

My Brother's Name

Hey Ceciri! Thanks for the worry! But my brother is okay with the use of his real name, and since he is over 18 I don't think that's any issue. But thanks again for your concern :)

Broken file link

Thanks for the heads up! :D ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 09:03, 15 October 2015 (CDT)


Adjusted the numbers a bit, making decom now subtly different from lost, and NPC slightly darker. ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 14:42, 15 October 2015 (CDT)

Re: Name changes

Hi! Please do not change old characters to the new format right now without redirects - this can break links! Ceciri (talk) 19:30, 17 October 2015 (CDT)

I'm tired, you did leave a redirect. Apologies Ceciri (talk) 19:35, 17 October 2015 (CDT)

No worries - I saw the pages showing no redirects when you load them from the links, so I know why you thought it may have happened. :) Sal (talk) 22:48, 17 October 2015 (CDT)

standard roster color names

Hey Nicholas, saw you're updating the pip set documentations. If possible, could we stick with the standard roster color names (so Gold instead of Yellow, Violet instead of Purple) unless of course the set in question does have a separate Yellow or Purple set in addition to a Gold and Violet set? This is because these color names are used in various other templates such as the crew navs, bio sidebar templates, etc, and thus helps keep the names consistent for the user to remember. ♫ Rich118Wiki AdministratorSend Message 15:17, 4 November 2015 (CST)

Edited page

As long as it looks the same as the rest of the page's format, I don't have an issue. ♣ Deliera talkforums 18:29, 4 November 2015 (CST)

Victory Template

If it wasn't attached to anything and was just old, then let's just let it go. Thank you for the consideration though, I do appreciate that! Nugra (talk) Commanding Officer of the USS Victory 19:47, 5 November 2015 (CST)