Talk:StarBase 118 Deck Layout

Deck Ranges

I calculated the deck ranges, to give us a better idea of where things are. My method was simplistic: I took a graphic of the starbase, and then sized it to 935 pixels high -- the same # of decks on the base. Thus, I had a representation of the base where each deck is 1 pixel. (BTW, I removed the towers and the "platform" underneath them when I counted the decks, as well as the antennas on the subspace array. I assume that the towers and their platform would be +1 type decks.) I then placed guides at the bottom of each "section" of the base and found the pixel on the Y axis that this corresponded to. That pixel then became a deck number. --Wolf /^{talk page} 18:47, 26 June 2006 (CDT)

There is a section below the engineering area, but above the subspace array, that is not sized on either of the representations [1] [2] of the base sections. So, I assumed that this section was a "lower habitat area," thus the second set of ranges for the habitat area. --Wolf /^{talk page} 18:50, 26 June 2006 (CDT)

I happen to have a copy of Jackill's Starfleet Reference Manual (vol. II), which has the spacedock-style starbase in it. It's not canon, but I thought you might be interested in what it says, if only for another point of view. I can provide a scan if desired. But, in text, the sections are:

A1 - Administration (the towers)
D1 - Drydock (which include the Drydock and Admin sections in sections.html)
H2 - Habitat (matches up exactly to the upper habitat section)
H1 - Lower habitat (the Commercial section, which is also listed as being a completely open dome with landscape inside)
I1 - Interface section (immediately below the lower dome.. included in sections.html's Commercial)
R2 - Research (sections.html's Engineering)
I2 - Interface section (The little bit at the very bottom of Engineering)
R1 - Research (What you are referring to as the lower habitat section)
C1 - Communications (Subspace Array)
C2/C3/C4 - Communications towers (three different variants of towers)

Personally, I like the idea of there being a research section, if only because I wonder what on earth the engineers would do with a sizable percentage of the station dedicated to their craft. Although, research facilities could easily be inside the engineering section. Just my thoughts.. --RogueGypsy47 21:13, 26 June 2006 (CDT)

Well, right now I'm in the midst of a personal crisis as I have come to the realization that my deck #s are completely wrong :) I calculated the ranges assume that length of the base = 935 decks. Then it occured to me that I should have been going by the stated LENGTH and not number of decks. Duh. So I'm trying to figure out a better computation right now, but it's clear to me that the 935 deck # does not include the hab dome, and probably not the docking bay, either.

I do like the breakdown you have. I'm not sure what is meant by "Interface section," but we could simply call "lower habitat" the research area, instead.

Also, the engineering decks don't just account for "craft," but instead all manner of maintenance-type stuff. Though, as I think about it, it occurs to me that a lot of stuff that I assumed went in the engineering area (i.e.- water recyclers, air scrubbers, etc.) would probably be "local" to where they are needed. It would be a lot of wasted energy to pipe water from deck 5 to deck 700 just to clean it. So we may want to keep the "lower habitat" the same, then break up the engineering section to include maintenance stuff (fusion reactors, a couple of the computer cores, and other big stuff) and research areas? --Wolf /^{talk page} 22:49, 26 June 2006 (CDT)

Phew... okay. Lots of calculations done. Used a new pic of the base which I feel is more accurate. Then I basically did the same thing I did the first round, but used the height of the base, instead. Worked it out all complicated-like, ending up with a deck being 0.033mm=10feet/3.04m on my scale. Using the new specifications Avatar and I got from DITL, it was just a mess! But, it came out a little more accurate, I believe, than the original specs we had. So now I'm going to update the deck ranges with the appropriate numbers.

Now, as far as the issues raised above about what is in each section, specifically (research, engineering, etc.), those are issues you can sort out by simply designating "sub-sections" of the major sections for specific things. Part of the engineering section for scientific research, and so on. Be creative :) --Wolf /^{talk page} 00:04, 27 June 2006 (CDT)

Inspirational Websites

Here's a list of URLs that can act as "inspiration" for necessary components to this list. They are other RPGs/Star Trek sites that have listed spacedock decks. Some of them are pretty hokey, but the basic idea is to look for things that would be necessary, and then figure out where they would go on our site. Feel free to add more if you find them:

--Wolf /^{talk page} 21:41, 29 June 2006 (CDT)