Talk:Independence-A Crew History/FA Discussion

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Independence-A Crew History

  • Support as nominator: Believed to be a comprehensive list of every PC to have served on the most recent Independence. Stays on topic, links to pages for every PC, includes a list of every promotion ceremony. Not sure where this can be improved at present. - Lt. SalakUSS Independence-ATalk 21:47, 7 April 2008 (EDT)
    • Oppose: Interesting, but I'm not entirely sure we want to get in the habit of promoting lists as featured articles. Shouldn't it be more about written content? --Wolf /talk page 00:13, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
      • Wikipedia has a separate process for promoting Featured Lists, but we prob don't have enough articles to do such ourselves yet I'd guess. Still, a list can take as much effort, or even more effort to compile than a page full of text. It also provides a useful resource looking into the history of the ship, and thus part of the history of the group too. - Lt. SalakUSS Independence-ATalk 00:21, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
        • That's true. And SB118's article was not entirely different. Still, while I realize it requires effort to put together, seems like there's not much that can be improved upon for it. Don't know, I guess I'll have to think about it more... --Wolf /talk page 00:36, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
          • Support with caveat - What about separate featured statuses? There could be regular FAs, like the Karawati page, or Salak and Kolk profiles, that could be shown on the front page and are recognized for their original content ... BUT there could also be a special nomination (Featured Content?) that recognizes things like the Indy crew history and other lists, etcetera for the amount of work and research gone into their creation. That way, the spotlight on the FAs and their content would spotlight the front page and the FA category, but great list-y articles would still be recognized. (I'm a little tired, so if my phraseology is completely off, I'll try to clarify later.) Onewhoisseveral 01:54, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
            • Well not every FA will make the front page I'd expect. We're promoting roughly 1 FA a week, but the front page is an Article of the Month. We could exclude lists from being front page, but not too sure about that. When does an article become a list, where's the line? - Lt. SalakUSS Independence-ATalk 05:03, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
              • Indeed, AotM and Featured Articles are different -- all AotM are Featured Articles, but I suspect that not all FA will end up as AotM. The question remains whether lists without any kind of prose content are applicable for featured status. --Wolf /talk page 00:04, 29 April 2008 (EDT)
                • I suppose, then, that lists wouldn't have the first attribute of the four necessary for a featured article - it isn't "well-written," simply because there's nothing written. It's comprehensive and pretty to look at, but there's not any real original content. The point of instituting the FA system seems, to me, to be to showcase well-written articles to a larger audience (group and/or non-group members), I think there's too much of a "so what?" factor with vessel-specific lists to seriously consider them as Featured Articles. Onewhoisseveral 19:48, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

Result: Nomination failed due to criteria 1) Being well written. - Lt. SalakUSS TigerTalk 13:33, 21 May 2008 (EDT)